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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 172 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 172

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 7003803
Grade: 172
Model: 5
Class: 11
Estimated Production Year: 1898
Run Quantity: 5,000
Grade/Model Run: 3 of 10
Grade/Model Total Production: 33,000
Size: 18s
Jewels: 7j
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Half-Nickel
Movement Setting: Pendant
Plate: Full Plate
Barrel: Going
Train: Quick
Regulator: Plain
Hairspring: Breguet
Adjusted: No
Railroad Grade: No
U.S. Patents: 77078, 347272, 345619
Data Research: 1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Run ID: 2781.172G3.18S1524.185M439.O602.P1004.7J752
Database Version: v52.246
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
99.35
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
38.34
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.065%
Registry Population: 22 (0.44%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 7.35% Analyzing 85 Sales

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


JerryT Waltham Expert Small Watch Expert 425 · July 17, 2022

Serial Number 7003803 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement finish does not seem correct. All of my
plates have a nickel finish. I cannot tell if it
might be nickel plating on brass or solid nickel.
Curator Response: Thanks for uploading the images. The "Half-Nickel" designation is from Elgin's original material catalogs describing this grade (and others). At this time, I am unclear what this specification was intended to imply. Some movements with this "half-nickel" designation appear to have a full nickel finish while others feature a gilt barrel. This topic demands additional research.

Anonymous · January 6, 2022

Serial Number 7004978 was reported as accurate.

Grannyjr 1 · February 13, 2019

Serial Number 7002685 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 13, 2019

Serial Number 7002685 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 23, 2019

Serial Number 7002381 was reported as accurate.

colaman6mcq Supporter 151 · May 11, 2016

Serial Number 7004224 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · February 8, 2014

Serial Number 7004883 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · January 15, 2014

Serial Number 7000149 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · July 15, 2013

Serial Number 7001654 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · July 15, 2013

Serial Number 7001654 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · May 1, 2012

Serial Number 7001809 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel
Elgin Grade 172 Pocket Watch