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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 172 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 172

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 7003803 Question Mark
Grade: 172 Question Mark
Model: 5 Question Mark
Class: 11 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1898 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 5,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 3 of 10 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 33,000 Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 7j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Half-Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Pendant Question Mark
Plate: Full Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Plain Question Mark
Hairspring: Breguet Question Mark
Adjusted: No Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078, 347272, 345619 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 2782.172G3.18S1525.185M439.O602.P1004.7J752 Question Mark
Data Research: 1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.516 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
99.35 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
38.34 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.065% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
22 (0.44%) Question Mark

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


JerryT Waltham Expert Small Watch Expert 425 · July 17, 2022

Serial Number 7003803 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement finish does not seem correct. All of my
plates have a nickel finish. I cannot tell if it
might be nickel plating on brass or solid nickel.
Curator Response: Thanks for uploading the images. The "Half-Nickel" designation is from Elgin's original material catalogs describing this grade (and others). At this time, I am unclear what this specification was intended to imply. Some movements with this "half-nickel" designation appear to have a full nickel finish while others feature a gilt barrel. This topic demands additional research.

Anonymous · January 6, 2022

Serial Number 7004978 was reported as accurate.

Grannyjr 1 · February 13, 2019

Serial Number 7002685 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 13, 2019

Serial Number 7002685 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 23, 2019

Serial Number 7002381 was reported as accurate.

colaman6mcq Supporter 151 · May 11, 2016

Serial Number 7004224 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · February 8, 2014

Serial Number 7004883 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · January 15, 2014

Serial Number 7000149 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · July 15, 2013

Serial Number 7001654 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · July 15, 2013

Serial Number 7001654 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · May 1, 2012

Serial Number 7001809 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel
Elgin Grade 172 Pocket Watch