Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 81 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 81

"G.M. Wheeler" or "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co."

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 854545
Grade: 81
Variation: Mixed
Model: 1
Class: 4
Estimated Production Year: 1881
Run Quantity: 5,000
Grade/Model Run: 4 of 13
Grade/Model Total Production: 53,000
Variant Est. Production: 25,000 (18S-M1-13J-HGK-U-MIXED)
Size: 18s
Jewels: 13j
Movement Configuration: Adaptable
Movement Finish: Gilt
Movement Setting: Key
Plate: Full Plate
Barrel: Going
Train: Quick
Adjusted: No
Railroad Grade: No
U.S. Patents: 77078
Case: Various
Run ID: 604.81G4.18S449.181M370.H588.K466.13J34
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Database Version: v52.338
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
159.57
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
61.61
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.105%
Registry Population: 41 (0.82%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -6.62% Analyzing 240 Sales
Research Note: #852252 Verified as Marked G.M. Wheeler with 13 Jewels [eBay #173154696070]. #851031: Verified as Marked "Elgin Nat'l. Watch Co." with 13 Jewels [eBay #333630154142].

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · April 14, 2023

Serial Number 852809 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 31, 2023

Serial Number 852809 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 2, 2022

Serial Number 851562 was reported as accurate.

LostDutchman Supporter 52 · December 29, 2021

Serial Number 854052 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 26, 2021

Serial Number 854252 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 26, 2021

Serial Number 852385 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 26, 2021

Serial Number 852385 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 18, 2021

Serial Number 852222 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 13, 2021

Serial Number 852222 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 5, 2021

Serial Number 852222 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 3, 2021

Serial Number 853103 was reported as accurate.

rtwatches 943 · November 30, 2020

Serial Number 850895 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Unsigned barrel bridge, perhaps a replacement?

Anonymous · October 30, 2020

Serial Number 852826 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 16, 2018

Serial Number 852754 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 18, 2018

Serial Number 853112 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 11, 2017

Serial Number 853430 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · November 27, 2017

Serial Number 854798 was reported as accurate.

sanjosetom 301 · May 25, 2017

Serial Number 852488 was reported as accurate.

Lebaron49 12 · January 21, 2017

Serial Number 851516 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j or 15j to 13j

Anonymous · June 29, 2016

Serial Number 851411 was reported as accurate.

dscottgoodrick 142 · May 9, 2016

Serial Number 854951 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 10, 2014

Serial Number 852488 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 12, 2014

Serial Number 854837 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 15, 2013

Serial Number 851062 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 6, 2013

Serial Number 851085 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 25, 2013

Serial Number 852451 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 31, 2013

Serial Number 850410 was reported as accurate.

CORBETT 3 · July 21, 2013

Serial Number 854110 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: My Serial #854110 is key wind, Blauer invisible
silver or pewter case.

Anonymous · April 1, 2013

Serial Number 853301 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 4, 2013

Serial Number 853437 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 24, 2012

Serial Number 853267 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 30, 2012

Serial Number 852471 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 20, 2012

Serial Number 853437 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: It is not a hunting style movement. It is key wind
and key set and the key hole in the case lines up
with the key wind mechanism on the movement and
the 12 is at the winding stem.
Elgin Grade 81 Pocket Watch