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Access Date: October 20, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 239
Veritas
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 8575009 | |
| Grade: | 239 | |
| Variation: | Veritas | |
| Model: | 8 | |
| Generation: | First | |
| Class: | 90 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1901 | |
| Run Quantity: | 2,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 1 of 17 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 18,800 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 16,500 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-VERITAS) | |
| Grade/Model Unrealized Production: | 1,200 | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 21j | |
| Jewel Material: | Ruby | |
| Jewel Setting: | Raised Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Signing Style: | Formal Script | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Black | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Barrel: | Safety | |
| Balance Jewel Material: | Diamond | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Train Material: | Gold | |
| Center Wheel Material: | Gold | |
| Regulator: | Traveling Nut (spring) | |
| Hairspring: | Breguet | |
| Escapement Type: | Straight-line | |
| Pallet Jewel Material: | Sapphire | |
| Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | |
| Wind Indicator: | No | |
| U.S. Patents: | 596407, 77078, 596408 | |
| Movement Markings: | Veritas Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. 21 Jewels Adjusted Safety Barrel |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 3467.239G1.18S1843.188M2.O911.L1357.21J73 | |
| Data Research: |
1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.427 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 56.60 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 21.82 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.037% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 42 (2.10%) | |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 239
Target Profile: 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-VERITAS
| Elgin Grade 239 (All Variations): 18,800 ETP | |
| 18S: 18,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 239 |
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| 18S-M8: 18,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 239, Model 8 |
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| 18S-M8-21J: 18,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 239, Model 8, 21 Jewels |
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| 18S-M8-21J-ONL: 18,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 239, Model 8, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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| 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 18,800 100.00% | |
| 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-VERITAS: 16,500 87.77% | Other: 2,300
Other Variants or Unclassified |
| NOTE: 20,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 1,200 Never Manufactured | |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 42 watches in the population registry for this run with 6 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anpavl Supporter 43 · August 23, 2023
Serial Number 8576562 was reported as accurate.
Anpavl Supporter 43 · August 2, 2023
Serial Number 8576562 was reported as accurate.
DocRogan43 Supporter 86 · March 31, 2023
Serial Number 8575150 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 23, 2023
Serial Number 8576429 was reported as accurate.
jackoat67 1 · September 27, 2022
Serial Number 8575382 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 5, 2021
Serial Number 8575663 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 20, 2021
Serial Number 8576534 was reported as accurate.
Bigbobhoss Supporter 45 · March 25, 2020
Serial Number 8576310 was reported as accurate.
Jcawly 1 · November 24, 2019
Serial Number 8575009 was reported as accurate.
pmtime Supporter 612 · November 10, 2019
Serial Number 8576296 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 15, 2019
Serial Number 8576409 was reported as accurate.
AWeber62 97 · May 28, 2019
Serial Number 8575127 was reported as accurate.
Automatic 254 · May 27, 2019
Serial Number 8575127 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 15, 2019
Serial Number 8575559 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 13, 2019
Serial Number 8576452 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 12, 2018
Serial Number 8575910 was reported as accurate.
jcammaro 68 · March 18, 2018
Serial Number 8576240 was reported as accurate.
ncplumber 150 · October 26, 2017
Serial Number 8576320 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 18, 2017
Serial Number 8575650 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 5, 2016
Serial Number 8576669 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 6, 2016
Serial Number 8576245 was reported as accurate.
dfchong 837 · June 19, 2016
Serial Number 8576310 was reported as accurate.
Groovysalsa 109 · December 20, 2015
Serial Number 8575768 was reported as accurate.
Groovysalsa 109 · April 12, 2015
Serial Number 8575768 was reported as inaccurate.
Groovysalsa 109 · April 12, 2015
Serial Number 8575768 was reported as accurate.
Brycef 107 · March 24, 2015
Serial Number 8576523 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 24, 2015
Serial Number 8576523 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 17, 2014
Serial Number 8576582 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 16, 2014
Serial Number 8576582 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 10, 2014
Serial Number 8576582 was reported as accurate.
txtimefan Supporter 101 · November 23, 2013
Serial Number 8575902 was reported as inaccurate.
tpicket 11 · November 14, 2013
Serial Number 8576732 was reported as accurate.
LeroyC 392 · November 11, 2013
Serial Number 8576732 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · April 19, 2013
Serial Number 8575282 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 11, 2013
Serial Number 8575739 was reported as inaccurate.
indicator.
Anonymous · April 3, 2013
Serial Number 8575198 was reported as inaccurate.
correct.
Anonymous · November 15, 2012
Serial Number 8575009 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 11, 2012
Serial Number 8575709 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 6, 2012
Serial Number 8575592 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · May 21, 2012
Serial Number 8576469 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · May 21, 2012
Serial Number 8576811 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · May 21, 2012
Serial Number 8576811 was reported as accurate.
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