Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 239

Veritas

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 8576618
Grade: 239
Variation: Veritas
Model: 8
Generation: First
Class: 90
Estimated Production Year: 1901
Run Quantity: 2,000
Grade/Model Run: 1 of 17
Grade/Model Total Production: 18,800
Variant Est. Production: 16,500 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-VERITAS)
Grade/Model Unrealized Production: 1,200
Size: 18s
Jewels: 21j
Jewel Material: Ruby
Jewel Setting: Raised Gold Settings (Screw-Set)
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Signing Style: Formal Script
Movement Inlay Color: Black
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Barrel: Safety
Balance Jewel Material: Diamond
Train: Quick
Train Material: Gold
Center Wheel Material: Gold
Regulator: Traveling Nut (spring)
Hairspring: Breguet
Escapement Type: Straight-line
Pallet Jewel Material: Sapphire
Standard Dial Type: Double-Sunk
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Position: Yes
Adjusted # of Positions: 5
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes
Railroad Grade: Yes
Railroad Grade Classification: Class A
Wind Indicator: No
U.S. Patents: 596407, 77078, 596408
Movement Markings: Veritas
Elgin, Ill.
U.S.A.
21 Jewels
Adjusted
Safety Barrel
Data Research: 1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Run ID: 3466.239G1.18S1842.188M2.O911.L1356.21J72
Database Version: v52.219
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
56.29
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
21.82
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.037%
Registry Population: 42 (2.10%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 2.88% Analyzing 212 Sales

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anpavl Supporter 18 · August 23, 2023

Serial Number 8576562 was reported as accurate.

Anpavl Supporter 18 · August 2, 2023

Serial Number 8576562 was reported as accurate.

DocRogan43 Supporter 86 · March 31, 2023

Serial Number 8575150 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Anonymous · March 23, 2023

Serial Number 8576429 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

jackoat67 1 · September 27, 2022

Serial Number 8575382 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 5, 2021

Serial Number 8575663 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 20, 2021

Serial Number 8576534 was reported as accurate.

Bigbobhoss Supporter 45 · March 25, 2020

Serial Number 8576310 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Jcawly 1 · November 24, 2019

Serial Number 8575009 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

pmtime Supporter 400 · November 10, 2019

Serial Number 8576296 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Anonymous · July 15, 2019

Serial Number 8576409 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

AWeber62 97 · May 28, 2019

Serial Number 8575127 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Automatic 254 · May 27, 2019

Serial Number 8575127 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Anonymous · February 15, 2019

Serial Number 8575559 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Anonymous · January 13, 2019

Serial Number 8576452 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Anonymous · April 12, 2018

Serial Number 8575910 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

jcammaro 68 · March 18, 2018

Serial Number 8576240 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

ncplumber 150 · October 26, 2017

Serial Number 8576320 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Anonymous · February 18, 2017

Serial Number 8575650 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 5, 2016

Serial Number 8576669 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 6, 2016

Serial Number 8576245 was reported as accurate.

dfchong 837 · June 19, 2016

Serial Number 8576310 was reported as accurate.

Groovysalsa 109 · December 20, 2015

Serial Number 8575768 was reported as accurate.

Groovysalsa 109 · April 12, 2015

Serial Number 8575768 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Wind Indicator = No

Groovysalsa 109 · April 12, 2015

Serial Number 8575768 was reported as accurate.

Brycef 107 · March 24, 2015

Serial Number 8576523 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 24, 2015

Serial Number 8576523 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 17, 2014

Serial Number 8576582 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 16, 2014

Serial Number 8576582 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 10, 2014

Serial Number 8576582 was reported as accurate.

txtimefan Supporter 101 · November 23, 2013

Serial Number 8575902 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Not marked Adjusted 5 Positions
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

tpicket 11 · November 14, 2013

Serial Number 8576732 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

LeroyC 392 · November 11, 2013

Serial Number 8576732 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: No wind indicator
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · April 19, 2013

Serial Number 8575282 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · April 11, 2013

Serial Number 8575739 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This watch is for sale on e-bay, there is no wind
indicator.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · April 3, 2013

Serial Number 8575198 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Does NOT have a Winding Indicator. All else is
correct.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · November 15, 2012

Serial Number 8575009 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 11, 2012

Serial Number 8575709 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · August 6, 2012

Serial Number 8575592 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: No winding indicator
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Double Roller changed from Unknown to No

Anonymous · May 21, 2012

Serial Number 8576469 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: It is not a winding indicator watch.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Double Roller changed from Unknown to No

Anonymous · May 21, 2012

Serial Number 8576811 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: It is not a winding indicator watch.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Double Roller changed from Unknown to No

Anonymous · May 21, 2012

Serial Number 8576811 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch