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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 69 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 69

B.W. Raymond

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 897 Question Mark
Grade: 69 Question Mark
Variation: B.W. Raymond Question Mark
Model: 1 Question Mark
Class: 1 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1867 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 900 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 1 of 24 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 29,054 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 26,054 (18S-M1-15J-HGK-A2P-B.W. RAYMOND) Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 15j Question Mark
Jewel Setting: Screw-Set Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Adaptable Question Mark
Movement Finish: Gilt Question Mark
Movement Signing Style: Formal Script Question Mark
Movement Inlay Color: None Question Mark
Movement Setting: Key Question Mark
Plate: Full Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Plain Question Mark
Hairspring: Flat Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 2 Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: No Question Mark
Adjustment Tolerance: [21] 2P +/- 15 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 8 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 5 s/24hrs. Question Mark
Railroad Grade: Yes Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078 Question Mark
Movement Markings: B.W. Raymond
Elgin, Ill.
Burt's Patent
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 2.69G1.18S1.181M1.H1.K1.15J1 Question Mark
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.457 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
87.47 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
33.75 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.057% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
53 (5.89%) Question Mark

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · February 12, 2024

Serial Number 756 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 29, 2023

Serial Number 887 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · November 17, 2023

Serial Number 670 was reported as accurate.

WatchThatMan 39 · May 17, 2023

Serial Number 211 was reported as accurate.

danielbeard6970 1 · January 15, 2023

Serial Number 897 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 4, 2022

Serial Number 892 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · January 8, 2022

Serial Number 269 was reported as accurate.

cmdraven 4083 · January 6, 2022

Serial Number 745 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 12, 2021

Serial Number 121 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 5, 2021

Serial Number 975 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 18, 2021

Serial Number 856 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

ElginLover1877 13 · January 31, 2021

Serial Number 956 was reported as accurate.

Ashraf 149 · November 4, 2020

Serial Number 207 was reported as accurate.

ABUMALEK 97 · October 28, 2020

Serial Number 975 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · October 17, 2020

Serial Number 937 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 16, 2020

Serial Number 867 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · May 16, 2020

Serial Number 207 was reported as accurate.

Clayspapa 9 · April 16, 2020

Serial Number 752 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

dfchong 837 · September 29, 2019

Serial Number 132 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 30, 2019

Serial Number 349 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 2, 2019

Serial Number 868 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · July 26, 2019

Serial Number 670 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 1, 2019

Serial Number 164 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · March 19, 2019

Serial Number 102 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 29, 2018

Serial Number 410 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 26, 2018

Serial Number 984 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · June 18, 2018

Serial Number 504 was reported as accurate.

ipygmalion 1 · May 3, 2018

Serial Number 160 was reported as accurate.

Rdixiemiller 25 · April 7, 2018

Serial Number 804 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 14, 2018

Serial Number 995 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · December 1, 2017

Serial Number 341 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Rdixiemiller 25 · November 17, 2017

Serial Number 804 was reported as accurate.

Rdixiemiller 25 · October 22, 2017

Serial Number 804 was reported as accurate.

danigoss 1 · August 8, 2017

Serial Number 632 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 2, 2017

Serial Number 868 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

pmwas1 97 · July 14, 2017

Serial Number 558 was reported as accurate.

yragogav73 18 · May 9, 2017

Serial Number 212 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 19, 2017

Serial Number 975 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · March 11, 2017

Serial Number 169 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 26, 2017

Serial Number 419 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 29, 2017

Serial Number 327 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 19, 2017

Serial Number 906 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 6, 2016

Serial Number 456 was reported as accurate.

Stfrank90 1 · August 16, 2016

Serial Number 259 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 16, 2016

Serial Number 259 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 7, 2016

Serial Number 527 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 7, 2016

Serial Number 527 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Shellsworth 1 · July 30, 2016

Serial Number 626 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · July 29, 2016

Serial Number 405 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · July 20, 2016

Serial Number 903 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Elgin Grade 69 Pocket Watch