Pocket Watch Database
https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/elgin/897
Access Date: June 08, 2023
"897" could possibly indicate the grade of the watch and not the serial number of your movement. Serial numbers are usually more than a few digits.
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 69
B.W. Raymond
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 897 | |
| Grade: | 69 | |
| Variation: | B.W. Raymond | |
| Model: | 1 | |
| Class: | 1 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1867 | |
| Run Quantity: | 900 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 1 of 24 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 29,054 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 26,054 (18S-M1-15J-HGK-A2P-B.W. RAYMOND) | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 15j | |
| Jewel Setting: | Screw-Set | |
| Movement Configuration: | Adaptable | |
| Movement Finish: | Gilt | |
| Movement Signing Style: | Formal Script | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | None | |
| Movement Setting: | Key | |
| Plate: | Full Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Plain | |
| Hairspring: | Flat | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 2 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | No | |
| Adjustment Tolerance: | [21] 2P +/- 15 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 8 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 5 s/24hrs. | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078 | |
| Movement Markings: | B.W. Raymond Elgin, Ill. Burt's Patent |
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| Data Research: |
1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Database Version: | v50.869 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 84.43 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 33.75 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.057% | |
| Registry Population: | 41 (4.56%) | |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 69
Target Profile: 18S-M1-15J-HGK-A2P-B.W. RAYMOND
| Elgin Grade 69 (All Variations): 29,054 ETP | |
| 18S: 29,054 100.00% 18s, Grade 69 |
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| 18S-M1: 29,054 100.00% 18s, Grade 69, Model 1 |
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| 18S-M1-15J: 29,054 100.00% 18s, Grade 69, Model 1, 15 Jewels |
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| 18S-M1-15J-HGK: 29,054 100.00% 18s, Grade 69, Model 1, 15 Jewels, Adaptable/Key/Gilt |
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| 18S-M1-15J-HGK-A2P: 29,054 100.00% | |
| 18S-M1-15J-HGK-A2P-B.W. RAYMOND: 26,054 89.67% | |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 101 | #1 | Inferred | ||
| 2 | 121 | #21 | Collection | February 24, 2020 | |
| 3 |
Image Credit: TimeAntiquarian |
135 | #35 | Collection | June 02, 2017 |
| 4 |
Image Credit: Klinej54 |
173 | #73 | Collection | May 11, 2018 |
| 5 | 260 | #160 | Inferred | ||
| 6 | 310 | #210 | Inferred | ||
| 7 | 323 | #223 | Inferred | ||
| 8 | 324 | #224 | Inferred | ||
| 9 | 326 | #226 | Collection | February 21, 2015 | |
| 10 | 340 | #240 | Collection | June 02, 2021 | |
| 11 | 377 | #277 | Collection | January 13, 2017 | |
| 12 | 424 | #324 | Collection | April 16, 2015 | |
| 13 | 504 | #404 | Inferred | ||
| 14 | 538 | #438 | Collection | March 28, 2018 | |
| 15 | 539 | #439 | Inferred | ||
| 16 | 543 | #443 | Inferred | ||
| 17 |
Image Credit: pmwas1 |
558 | #458 | Collection | July 14, 2017 |
| 18 | 585 | #485 | Inferred | ||
| 19 | 601 | #501 | Inferred | ||
| 20 | 629 | #529 | Inferred | ||
| 21 |
Image Credit: TimeAntiquarian |
634 | #534 | Collection | August 08, 2016 |
| 22 | 643 | #543 | Inferred | ||
| 23 | 646 | #546 | Inferred | ||
| 24 | 657 | #557 | Collection | December 08, 2019 | |
| 25 | 670 | #570 | Inferred | ||
| 26 | 697 | #597 | Collection | December 11, 2014 | |
| 27 | 702 | #602 | Collection | July 31, 2015 | |
| 28 | 708 | #608 | Inferred | ||
| 29 | 724 | #624 | Inferred | ||
| 30 |
Image Credit: casillas |
758 | #658 | Collection | September 01, 2013 |
| 31 | 769 | #669 | Collection | November 29, 2021 | |
| 32 | 799 | #699 | Collection | January 09, 2015 | |
| 33 | 804 | #704 | Inferred | ||
| 34 | 832 | #732 | Collection | December 11, 2014 | |
| 35 | 853 | #753 | Inferred | ||
| 36 | 867 | #767 | Collection | May 26, 2013 | |
| 37 |
Image Credit: danielbeard6970 |
897 | #797 | Collection | January 17, 2023 |
| 38 | 907 | #807 | Collection | July 18, 2014 | |
| 39 | 956 | #856 | Inferred | ||
| 40 | 975 | #875 | Collection | April 08, 2014 | |
| 41 | 976 | #876 | Inferred | ||
| Standard Deviation of Known Examples: 247.33 (Expected: 259.95, Δ12.62/1.40%) | |||||
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
WatchThatMan 24 · May 17, 2023
Serial Number 211 was reported as accurate.
danielbeard6970 1 · January 15, 2023
Serial Number 897 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 4, 2022
Serial Number 892 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · January 8, 2022
Serial Number 269 was reported as accurate.
cmdraven 3639 · January 6, 2022
Serial Number 745 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 12, 2021
Serial Number 121 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 5, 2021
Serial Number 975 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 18, 2021
Serial Number 856 was reported as inaccurate.
ElginLover1877 9 · January 31, 2021
Serial Number 956 was reported as accurate.
Ashraf 149 · November 4, 2020
Serial Number 207 was reported as accurate.
ABUMALEK 97 · October 28, 2020
Serial Number 975 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · October 17, 2020
Serial Number 937 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 16, 2020
Serial Number 867 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · May 16, 2020
Serial Number 207 was reported as accurate.
Clayspapa 9 · April 16, 2020
Serial Number 752 was reported as inaccurate.
dfchong 837 · September 29, 2019
Serial Number 132 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 30, 2019
Serial Number 349 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 2, 2019
Serial Number 868 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · July 26, 2019
Serial Number 670 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 1, 2019
Serial Number 164 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · March 19, 2019
Serial Number 102 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 29, 2018
Serial Number 410 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 26, 2018
Serial Number 984 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · June 18, 2018
Serial Number 504 was reported as accurate.
ipygmalion 1 · May 3, 2018
Serial Number 160 was reported as accurate.
Rdixiemiller 23 · April 7, 2018
Serial Number 804 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 14, 2018
Serial Number 995 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · December 1, 2017
Serial Number 341 was reported as inaccurate.
Rdixiemiller 23 · November 17, 2017
Serial Number 804 was reported as accurate.
Rdixiemiller 23 · October 22, 2017
Serial Number 804 was reported as accurate.
danigoss 1 · August 8, 2017
Serial Number 632 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 2, 2017
Serial Number 868 was reported as inaccurate.
pmwas1 97 · July 14, 2017
Serial Number 558 was reported as accurate.
yragogav73 18 · May 9, 2017
Serial Number 212 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 19, 2017
Serial Number 975 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · March 11, 2017
Serial Number 169 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 26, 2017
Serial Number 419 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 29, 2017
Serial Number 327 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 19, 2017
Serial Number 906 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 6, 2016
Serial Number 456 was reported as accurate.
Stfrank90 1 · August 16, 2016
Serial Number 259 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 16, 2016
Serial Number 259 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 7, 2016
Serial Number 527 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 7, 2016
Serial Number 527 was reported as inaccurate.
Shellsworth 1 · July 30, 2016
Serial Number 626 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · July 29, 2016
Serial Number 405 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · July 20, 2016
Serial Number 903 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · June 28, 2016
Serial Number 976 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 9, 2016
Serial Number 633 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 4, 2016
Serial Number 976 was reported as accurate.
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