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Access Date: November 22, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 239
Veritas - Mixed Run: 21-Jewel and 23-Jewel Movements
Manufacturer: | Elgin | |
Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
Movement Serial Number: | 9495692 | |
Grade: | 239 | |
Variation: | Veritas | |
Model: | 8 | |
Generation: | First | |
Class: | 90 | |
Estimated Production Year: | 1902 | |
Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
Grade/Model Run: | 5 of 17 | |
Grade/Model Total Production: | 18,800 | |
Variant Est. Production: | 16,500 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-VERITAS) | |
Grade/Model Unrealized Production: | 1,200 | |
Size: | 18s | |
Jewels: | 21j Mixed Run | |
Jewel Material: | Ruby | |
Jewel Setting: | Raised Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
Movement Signing Style: | Mixed | |
Movement Inlay Color: | Black | |
Movement Setting: | Lever | |
Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
Barrel: | Safety | |
Balance Jewel Material: | Diamond | |
Train: | Quick | |
Train Material: | Gold | |
Center Wheel Material: | Gold | |
Regulator: | Moseley | |
Hairspring: | Breguet | |
Escapement Type: | Straight-line | |
Pallet Jewel Material: | Sapphire | |
Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
Adjusted: | Yes | |
Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | |
Wind Indicator: | No | |
U.S. Patents: | 596407, 77078, 596408 | |
Movement Markings: | Veritas Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. 23 Jewels Adjusted Safety Barrel |
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Case: | Various | |
Run ID: | 3856.239G5.18S1979.188M13.O1065.L1432.21J88 | |
Data Research: |
1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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Database Version: | v52.452 | |
Advanced Metrics | ||
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 56.60 | |
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 21.82 | |
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.037% | |
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 12 (1.20%) | |
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | -3.00% Analyzing 219 Sales | |
Research Note: Some 23-Jewel Movements Reported in Run. #9495414: Verified as 21-Jewels. #9495344: Verified as 23-Jewels.
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 239
Target Profile: 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-VERITAS
Elgin Grade 239 (All Variations): 18,800 ETP | |
18S: 18,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 239 |
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18S-M8: 18,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 239, Model 8 |
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18S-M8-21J: 18,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 239, Model 8, 21 Jewels |
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18S-M8-21J-ONL: 18,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 239, Model 8, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 18,800 100.00% | |
18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-VERITAS: 16,500 87.77% | Other: 2,300
Other Variants or Unclassified |
NOTE: 20,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 1,200 Never Manufactured |
Population Registry for This Run
Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 12 watches in the population registry for this run with 3 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
fasteddies 3 · December 29, 2023
Serial Number 9495844 was reported as accurate.
CJEmpire3 113 · September 13, 2021
Serial Number 9495414 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 25, 2020
Serial Number 9495677 was reported as accurate.
senorchisme 17 · April 28, 2019
Serial Number 9495333 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 7, 2018
Serial Number 9495292 was reported as inaccurate.
jewels
Anonymous · April 5, 2017
Serial Number 9495082 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 2, 2017
Serial Number 9495344 was reported as inaccurate.
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0005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE
%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3Dd3525fdb89f648de9
2088c163da6598a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%
26sd%3D352016896902
is marked 23 jewels, not 21 jewels
alandye 52 · March 5, 2014
Serial Number 9495822 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · February 22, 2014
Serial Number 9495822 was reported as accurate.
usncrdp 5 · January 7, 2014
Serial Number 9495398 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 25, 2013
Serial Number 9495344 was reported as inaccurate.
Barrel mainspring and does not have a Winding
Indicator. A Veritas that doesn't fit the
norm.....????
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