Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 239

Veritas - Mixed Run: 21-Jewel and 23-Jewel Movements

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 9495692 Question Mark
Grade: 239 Question Mark
Variation: Veritas Question Mark
Model: 8 Question Mark
Generation: First Question Mark
Class: 90 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1902 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 1,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 5 of 17 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 18,800 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 16,500 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-VERITAS) Question Mark
Grade/Model Unrealized Production: 1,200 Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 21j    Mixed Run Question Mark
Jewel Material: Ruby Question Mark
Jewel Setting: Raised Gold Settings (Screw-Set) Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Signing Style: Mixed Question Mark
Movement Inlay Color: Black Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Safety Question Mark
Balance Jewel Material: Diamond Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Train Material: Gold Question Mark
Center Wheel Material: Gold Question Mark
Regulator: Moseley Question Mark
Hairspring: Breguet Question Mark
Escapement Type: Straight-line Question Mark
Pallet Jewel Material: Sapphire Question Mark
Standard Dial Type: Double-Sunk Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 5 Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade Classification: Class A Question Mark
Wind Indicator: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 596407, 77078, 596408 Question Mark
Movement Markings: Veritas
Elgin, Ill.
U.S.A.
23 Jewels
Adjusted
Safety Barrel
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 3856.239G5.18S1979.188M13.O1065.L1432.21J88 Question Mark
Data Research: 1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.452 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
56.60 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
21.82 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.037% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
12 (1.20%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -3.00% Analyzing 219 Sales Question Mark
Research Note: Some 23-Jewel Movements Reported in Run. #9495414: Verified as 21-Jewels. #9495344: Verified as 23-Jewels.

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


fasteddies 3 · December 29, 2023

Serial Number 9495844 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 9, 2022

Serial Number 9495068 was reported as accurate.

CJEmpire3 113 · September 13, 2021

Serial Number 9495414 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 25, 2020

Serial Number 9495677 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

senorchisme 17 · April 28, 2019

Serial Number 9495333 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Anonymous · December 7, 2018

Serial Number 9495292 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement has 21 jewels buy your database shows 23
jewels
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 23j to 21j
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Anonymous · April 5, 2017

Serial Number 9495082 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 23j to 21j

Anonymous · April 2, 2017

Serial Number 9495344 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Elgin-23J-Varitas-18s-Pock
et-Watch-Running/152492816894?_trksid=p2047675.c10
0005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE
%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3Dd3525fdb89f648de9
2088c163da6598a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%
26sd%3D352016896902
is marked 23 jewels, not 21 jewels

Anonymous · September 5, 2014

Serial Number 9495765 was reported as accurate.

alandye 52 · March 5, 2014

Serial Number 9495822 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · February 22, 2014

Serial Number 9495822 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

usncrdp 5 · January 7, 2014

Serial Number 9495398 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · March 25, 2013

Serial Number 9495344 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This interesting movement has a non-jeweled Motor
Barrel mainspring and does not have a Winding
Indicator. A Veritas that doesn't fit the
norm.....????
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · March 9, 2013

Serial Number 9495344 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: My watch is a 23Jewel Veritas and is NOT a wind
indicator. *****@aol.com
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch