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Access Date: December 23, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 214
"Veritas" or "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co."
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 9596875 | |
| Grade: | 214 | |
| Variation: | Mixed | |
| Model: | 8 | |
| Generation: | First | |
| Class: | 89 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1902 | |
| Run Quantity: | 2,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 5 of 22 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 22,700 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 3,000 (18S-M8-23J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED) | |
| Grade/Model Unrealized Production: | 1,300 | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 23j | |
| Jewel Material: | Ruby | |
| Jewel Setting: | Raised Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Gilt or Black | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Double Roller: | Yes | |
| Barrel: | Jeweled Safety | |
| Balance Jewel Material: | Diamond | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Train Material: | Gold | |
| Regulator: | Traveling Nut (spring) | |
| Hairspring: | Breguet | |
| Escapement Type: | Straight Line | |
| Pallet Jewel Material: | Sapphire | |
| Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Adjustment Tolerance: | [10] 5P +/- 10 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 3 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 0-2 s/24hrs. | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | |
| U.S. Patents: | 596407, 77078, 596408 | |
| Movement Markings: | Veritas Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. 23 Jewels Safety Barrel Adjusted [Some Marked "Adjusted 5 Positions"] |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 3898.214G5.18S1993.188M18.O1084.L1442.23J9 | |
| Data Research: |
1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.518 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 68.34 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 26.35 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.045% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 36 (1.80%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | -0.62% Analyzing 240 Sales | |
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Research Note: #9596497: Verified as Marked "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co. U.S.A." on the train bridge instead of "Veritas." While the rayed damaskeening pattern is slightly different than the standard "Vertias" movements from this run, it appears to match the barrel bridge, indicating that everything appears to be original [eBay #265043019990].
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 214
Target Profile: 18S-M8-23J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED
| Elgin Grade 214 (All Variations): 22,700 ETP | |
| 18S: 22,700 100.00% 18s, Grade 214 |
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| 18S-M8: 22,700 100.00% 18s, Grade 214, Model 8 |
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| 18S-M8-23J: 22,700 100.00% 18s, Grade 214, Model 8, 23 Jewels |
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| 18S-M8-23J-ONL: 22,700 100.00% 18s, Grade 214, Model 8, 23 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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| 18S-M8-23J-ONL-A5PTI: 22,700 100.00% | |
| 18S-M8-23J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED: 3,000 13.22% | Other: 19,700
Other Variants or Unclassified |
| NOTE: 24,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 1,300 Never Manufactured | |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 36 watches in the population registry for this run with 3 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
strikeph Supporter 24 · May 9, 2024
Serial Number 9596570 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 31, 2023
Serial Number 9596594 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 29, 2022
Serial Number 9596153 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 3, 2021
Serial Number 9595999 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 13, 2021
Serial Number 9596497 was reported as inaccurate.
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65043019990?hash=item3db5cb88d6:g:PK4AAOSwPm5gHuBp
Anonymous · September 16, 2020
Serial Number 9595072 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 23, 2020
Serial Number 9595171 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 22, 2020
Serial Number 9596862 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 10, 2020
Serial Number 9595806 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 21, 2020
Serial Number 9595500 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 2, 2019
Serial Number 9596862 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 2, 2019
Serial Number 9596102 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 1, 2019
Serial Number 9596102 was reported as accurate.
Siebefa 17 · July 28, 2019
Serial Number 9596875 was reported as accurate.
dfchong 837 · July 25, 2019
Serial Number 9596591 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 28, 2018
Serial Number 9595354 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 26, 2018
Serial Number 9596202 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 8, 2017
Serial Number 9596911 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 28, 2017
Serial Number 9596911 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 18, 2017
Serial Number 9596090 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 17, 2017
Serial Number 9595354 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 6, 2017
Serial Number 9595354 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 27, 2016
Serial Number 9596077 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 18, 2016
Serial Number 9595848 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 17, 2016
Serial Number 9596911 was reported as accurate.
Gasperoff Supporter 727 · January 31, 2016
Serial Number 9596970 was reported as accurate.
Gasperoff Supporter 727 · January 31, 2016
Serial Number 9596970 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 23, 2015
Serial Number 9596592 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 19, 2015
Serial Number 9596231 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 29, 2015
Serial Number 9596231 was reported as accurate.
LeroyC 392 · November 25, 2014
Serial Number 9596058 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 11, 2014
Serial Number 9595297 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · December 27, 2013
Serial Number 9595502 was reported as accurate.
LeroyC 392 · December 25, 2013
Serial Number 9596792 was reported as accurate.
mjrd63 15 · December 16, 2013
Serial Number 9596335 was reported as accurate.
LeroyC 392 · August 23, 2013
Serial Number 9595752 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 1, 2013
Serial Number 9596291 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 18, 2013
Serial Number 9595502 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 28, 2013
Serial Number 9595400 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 21, 2012
Serial Number 9596596 was reported as inaccurate.
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