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https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/elgin/F193167/movement
Access Date: December 23, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 571
B.W. Raymond
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | F193167 | |
| Grade: | 571 | |
| Variation: | B.W. Raymond 8ADJ | |
| Model: | 20 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1951 | |
| Run Quantity: | 6,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 2 of 26 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 565,000 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 92,000 (16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND 8ADJ) | |
| Size: | 16s | |
| Jewels: | 21j | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Ball | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Total Adjustments: | 8 | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078 | |
| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 15229.571G2.16S3898.1620M5.O6929.L2503.21J501 | |
| Data Research: |
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.518 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 1,701.09 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 657.30 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 1.117% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 25 (0.42%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | -3.93% Analyzing 794 Sales | |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 571
Target Profile: 16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND 8ADJ
| Elgin Grade 571 (All Variations): 565,000 ETP | ||
| 16S: 565,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 571 |
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| 16S-M20: 565,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 571, Model 20 |
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| 16S-M20-21J: 565,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 571, Model 20, 21 Jewels |
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| 16S-M20-21J-ONL: 565,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 571, Model 20, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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| 16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 112,000 19.82% | Other: 453,000
Other Adjustments or Unclassified |
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| 16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND 8ADJ: 92,000 16.28% | Other: 20,000
Other Variants or Unclassified |
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Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 25 watches in the population registry for this run with 4 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Watchmaker60 Supporter 1 · September 11, 2024
Serial Number F192328 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 30, 2024
Serial Number F194869 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 28, 2024
Serial Number F190597 was reported as accurate.
Mondomike 15 · March 8, 2024
Serial Number F194340 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 1, 2023
Serial Number F190597 was reported as accurate.
TerryfromCanada Supporter 486 · May 27, 2023
Serial Number F191211 was reported as accurate.
locoengr Supporter 27 · November 16, 2022
Serial Number F193480 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 12, 2021
Serial Number F193366 was reported as accurate.
Mondomike 15 · February 6, 2021
Serial Number F194340 was reported as accurate.
rjmurton1964 34 · January 14, 2021
Serial Number F191810 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 30, 2020
Serial Number F191232 was reported as accurate.
Russcarter 7 · June 28, 2020
Serial Number F189477 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 22, 2019
Serial Number F189818 was reported as accurate.
Nick7716 6 · May 23, 2019
Serial Number F194442 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 13, 2019
Serial Number F194442 was reported as accurate.
Doc1911 10 · March 6, 2019
Serial Number F189458 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 18, 2019
Serial Number F194340 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 27, 2018
Serial Number F193908 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 16, 2018
Serial Number F192209 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 12, 2018
Serial Number F190259 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 28, 2018
Serial Number F193037 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 28, 2018
Serial Number F193037 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · January 28, 2018
Serial Number F192209 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 2, 2017
Serial Number F190975 was reported as accurate.
Automatic 254 · August 7, 2017
Serial Number F194866 was reported as accurate.
Automatic 254 · August 7, 2017
Serial Number F194866 was reported as accurate.
salem1 Supporter 44 · July 24, 2017
Serial Number F194866 was reported as accurate.
mdeshaies 40 · July 20, 2017
Serial Number F191825 was reported as accurate.
jeromeschley 60 · April 22, 2017
Serial Number F189472 was reported as inaccurate.
But Someone must have saw the ( __9_)
__Adjustments on their movement upside down and
changed it to 6 Adjustments. I have only seen 8
or 9 Adjustments on 571 Elgin Movements in the
last 10 years of Collecting .
Respectfully yours, Jerome Schley Sr.
Anonymous · December 19, 2016
Serial Number F189524 was reported as accurate.
Chronified Supporter 212 · October 11, 2016
Serial Number F191774 was reported as accurate.
Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 307 · September 4, 2016
Serial Number F190375 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 16, 2016
Serial Number F191525 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 18, 2016
Serial Number F190354 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 9, 2015
Serial Number F191837 was reported as accurate.
Mondomike 15 · May 1, 2015
Serial Number F194340 was reported as accurate.
pretium4intus 9 · March 23, 2015
Serial Number F192772 was reported as accurate.
dandill 3 · March 4, 2014
Serial Number F190044 was reported as accurate.
rocket00 236 · February 12, 2014
Serial Number F194395 was reported as accurate.
TridentineCatholic 25 · December 21, 2013
Serial Number F189524 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 21, 2013
Serial Number F189524 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 25, 2013
Serial Number F194395 was reported as accurate.
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