Pocket Watch Database
https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/elgin/J372244
Access Date: November 26, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 571
8 Adjustments
Manufacturer: | Elgin | |
Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
Movement Serial Number: | J372244 | |
Grade: | 571 | |
Variation: | 8ADJ | |
Model: | 20 | |
Estimated Production Year: | 1948 | |
Run Quantity: | 6,000 | |
Grade/Model Run: | 7 of 26 | |
Grade/Model Total Production: | 565,000 | |
Variant Est. Production: | 20,000 (16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI-8ADJ) | |
Size: | 16s | |
Jewels: | 21j | |
Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
Movement Setting: | Lever | |
Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
Barrel: | Going | |
Train: | Quick | |
Regulator: | Ball | |
Adjusted: | Yes | |
Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
Total Adjustments: | 8 | |
Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
U.S. Patents: | 77078 | |
Case: | Various | |
Run ID: | 15328.571G7.16S3915.1620M22.O6958.L2513.21J523 | |
Data Research: |
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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Database Version: | v52.462 | |
Advanced Metrics | ||
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 1,701.09 | |
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 657.30 | |
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 1.117% | |
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 28 (0.47%) | |
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | -3.46% Analyzing 794 Sales |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 571
Target Profile: 16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI-8ADJ
Elgin Grade 571 (All Variations): 565,000 ETP | ||
16S: 565,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 571 |
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16S-M20: 565,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 571, Model 20 |
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16S-M20-21J: 565,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 571, Model 20, 21 Jewels |
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16S-M20-21J-ONL: 565,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 571, Model 20, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 112,000 19.82% | Other: 453,000
Other Adjustments or Unclassified |
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16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI-8ADJ: 20,000 3.54% | Other: 92,000
Other Variants or Unclassified |
Population Registry for This Run
Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 28 watches in the population registry for this run with 1 image.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
jaspurlock2012 Supporter 125 · October 12, 2024
Serial Number J373787 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 20, 2023
Serial Number J376219 was reported as accurate.
barhink 1 · September 18, 2023
Serial Number J376311 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 12, 2022
Serial Number J372573 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 25, 2022
Serial Number J375000 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 1, 2021
Serial Number J376510 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 21, 2021
Serial Number J376402 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 17, 2021
Serial Number J375255 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 24, 2020
Serial Number J374305 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 15, 2019
Serial Number J375011 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 14, 2018
Serial Number J373073 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 4, 2017
Serial Number J372896 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 4, 2017
Serial Number J376171 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 10, 2017
Serial Number J372002 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 3, 2017
Serial Number J374193 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 2, 2016
Serial Number J376841 was reported as accurate.
DSpall 6 · December 1, 2016
Serial Number J376852 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 28, 2016
Serial Number J376841 was reported as inaccurate.
locomotive Supporter 81 · January 24, 2016
Serial Number J372226 was reported as accurate.
locomotive Supporter 81 · January 24, 2016
Serial Number J372226 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 3, 2015
Serial Number J375803 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 13, 2014
Serial Number J374720 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 13, 2014
Serial Number J374720 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · November 13, 2014
Serial Number J374720 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 2, 2014
Serial Number J374911 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 29, 2014
Serial Number J373357 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · August 15, 2014
Serial Number J372410 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 12, 2014
Serial Number J375540 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 12, 2014
Serial Number J375540 was reported as accurate.
WilliamGene 69 · June 1, 2014
Serial Number J375983 was reported as accurate.
Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 307 · May 31, 2014
Serial Number J372244 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 21, 2014
Serial Number J373095 was reported as accurate.
Wrstratton 134 · January 20, 2014
Serial Number J372032 was reported as accurate.
pocket12 1 · January 5, 2014
Serial Number J376725 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 25, 2013
Serial Number J375837 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 14, 2013
Serial Number J375828 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · July 7, 2013
Serial Number J375828 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 5, 2013
Serial Number J372365 was reported as accurate.
txtimefan Supporter 101 · June 22, 2013
Serial Number J372442 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 1, 2013
Serial Number J372244 was reported as inaccurate.
marked '8 ADJUSTMENTS' which means 5 POSITIONS
Anonymous · March 21, 2013
Serial Number J372032 was reported as inaccurate.
Elgin frequently marks watches as having "x
adjustments", where 'x' is some number greater
than three, often 6 or 8. This means that it has
been adjusted to temperature (2 adjustments),
isochronism (1 adjustment) and the remaining x-3
adjustments are to positions. You sometimes see
people say that a watch is "adjusted to 8
positions" because they misinterpret the phrase "8
adjustments". They fail to realize that 3 of those
adjustments are to heat, cold and isochronism, and
the watch is really adjusted to just 5 positions.
(There appears to be a few rare cases when Elgin
and other companies may have marked a watch as
having "8 adjustments" and meant 6 positions.
Anonymous · March 21, 2013
Serial Number J372032 was reported as inaccurate.
The best watches were timed in six positions: DU
- dial up, DD - dial down, PU - pendant up, PL -
pendant left, PD - pendant down and PR - pendant
right. Often five positions were used, typically
omitting the PD position.
Anonymous · March 11, 2013
Serial Number J372745 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 8, 2013
Serial Number J372032 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · July 24, 2012
Serial Number J375876 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 11, 2012
Serial Number J373985 was reported as inaccurate.
probably isn't. The text on the bridge says
ADJUSTED - 8 POSITIONS. I assume this is heat,
cold, isochonism, and 5 positional adjustments? So
for heat, cold and isochonism the answer to
Adjusted should probably be YES.
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