Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 571 Pocket Watch Movement

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 571

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: J372244
Grade: 571
Model: 20
Estimated Production Year: 1948
Run Quantity: 6,000
Grade/Model Run: 10 of 26
Total Production: 563,000
Size: 16s
Jewels: 21j
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Barrel: Going
Train: Quick
Regulator: Ball
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Position: Yes
Adjusted # of Positions: 6
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes
Total Adjustments: 8
Railroad Grade: Yes
U.S. Patents: 77078
Data Research: 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Database Version: v48.145

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Data Verification Reports

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Verification Serial Map
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Anonymous · June 12, 2022

Serial Number J372573 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 25, 2022

Serial Number J375000 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 1, 2021

Serial Number J376510 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 21, 2021

Serial Number J376402 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 17, 2021

Serial Number J375255 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 24, 2020

Serial Number J374305 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 15, 2019

Serial Number J375011 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 14, 2018

Serial Number J373073 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 4, 2017

Serial Number J372896 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 4, 2017

Serial Number J376171 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 10, 2017

Serial Number J372002 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 3, 2017

Serial Number J374193 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 2, 2016

Serial Number J376841 was reported as accurate.

DSpall 6 · December 1, 2016

Serial Number J376852 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 28, 2016

Serial Number J376841 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: marked 8 adjustments

locomotive Supporter 81 · January 24, 2016

Serial Number J372226 was reported as accurate.

locomotive Supporter 81 · January 24, 2016

Serial Number J372226 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 3, 2015

Serial Number J375803 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 13, 2014

Serial Number J374720 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · November 13, 2014

Serial Number J374720 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: regulator is elgin
Curator Response: Please upload a photo of the movement so we can evaluate. The examples we have seen have the Ball regulator.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · November 13, 2014

Serial Number J374720 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · November 2, 2014

Serial Number J374911 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · October 29, 2014

Serial Number J373357 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · August 15, 2014

Serial Number J372410 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · July 12, 2014

Serial Number J375540 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · July 12, 2014

Serial Number J375540 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

WilliamGene 68 · June 1, 2014

Serial Number J375983 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 265 · May 31, 2014

Serial Number J372244 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · January 21, 2014

Serial Number J373095 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

Wrstratton 134 · January 20, 2014

Serial Number J372032 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

pocket12 1 · January 5, 2014

Serial Number J376725 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · September 25, 2013

Serial Number J375837 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · July 14, 2013

Serial Number J375828 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · July 7, 2013

Serial Number J375828 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · July 5, 2013

Serial Number J372365 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

txtimefan 101 · June 22, 2013

Serial Number J372442 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · June 1, 2013

Serial Number J372244 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: As other people have indicated the movement is
marked '8 ADJUSTMENTS' which means 5 POSITIONS
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · March 21, 2013

Serial Number J372032 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Adj 8 Pos :
Elgin frequently marks watches as having "x
adjustments", where 'x' is some number greater
than three, often 6 or 8. This means that it has
been adjusted to temperature (2 adjustments),
isochronism (1 adjustment) and the remaining x-3
adjustments are to positions. You sometimes see
people say that a watch is "adjusted to 8
positions" because they misinterpret the phrase "8
adjustments". They fail to realize that 3 of those
adjustments are to heat, cold and isochronism, and
the watch is really adjusted to just 5 positions.
(There appears to be a few rare cases when Elgin
and other companies may have marked a watch as
having "8 adjustments" and meant 6 positions.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Adjusted # Positions changed from 5 to 6

Anonymous · March 21, 2013

Serial Number J372032 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Adjusted to 8 Positions:
The best watches were timed in six positions: DU
- dial up, DD - dial down, PU - pendant up, PL -
pendant left, PD - pendant down and PR - pendant
right. Often five positions were used, typically
omitting the PD position.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Adjusted # Positions changed from 5 to 6

Anonymous · March 11, 2013

Serial Number J372745 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Adjusted # Positions changed from 5 to 6

Anonymous · March 8, 2013

Serial Number J372032 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Adjusted to 8 Positions on mine
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Adjusted # Positions changed from 5 to 6

Anonymous · July 24, 2012

Serial Number J375876 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Adjusted # Positions changed from 5 to 6

Anonymous · April 11, 2012

Serial Number J373985 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 5 positions may be right, but adjusted as NO
probably isn't. The text on the bridge says
ADJUSTED - 8 POSITIONS. I assume this is heat,
cold, isochonism, and 5 positional adjustments? So
for heat, cold and isochonism the answer to
Adjusted should probably be YES.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Adjusted # Positions changed from 5 to 6
Elgin Grade 571 Pocket Watch Movement