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Information Provided by PocketWatchDatabase.com:
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Access Date: November 19, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 571 Pocket Watch
Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 571

B.W. Raymond

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: N17057 Question Mark
Grade: 571 Question Mark
Variation: B.W. Raymond 8ADJ Question Mark
Model: 20 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1951 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 10,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 11 of 26 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 565,000 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 92,000 (16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND 8ADJ) Question Mark
Size: 16s Question Mark
Jewels: 21j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Ball Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 5 Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes Question Mark
Total Adjustments: 8 Question Mark
Railroad Grade: Yes Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 15442.571G11.16S3927.1620M34.O6981.L2519.21J545 Question Mark
Data Research: 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
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Database Version: v52.445 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 1,701.09 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 657.30 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 1.117% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only		21 (0.21%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -3.46% Analyzing 794 Sales Question Mark
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 571

Target Profile: 16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND 8ADJ

Elgin Grade 571 (All Variations): 565,000 ETP
16S: 565,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 571
16S-M20: 565,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 571, Model 20
16S-M20-21J: 565,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 571, Model 20, 21 Jewels
16S-M20-21J-ONL: 565,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 571, Model 20, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel
16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 112,000 19.82% Other: 453,000
Other Adjustments or Unclassified
16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND 8ADJ: 92,000 16.28% Other: 20,000
Other Variants or Unclassified

Population Registry for This Run

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

phantacc Supporter 66 · January 25, 2024

Serial Number N15479 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

nascar956 8 · October 5, 2023

Serial Number N19355 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · February 24, 2023

Serial Number N14139 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

NickYorks 13 · December 11, 2022

Serial Number N14173 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

WrongCentury Supporter 24 · November 6, 2021

Serial Number N13755 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · July 27, 2021

Serial Number N12691 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Sqwatch101 10 · April 16, 2021

Serial Number N16712 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Bill12341 9 · March 18, 2021

Serial Number N11125 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · September 29, 2020

Serial Number N17328 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · March 20, 2020

Serial Number N14176 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · December 17, 2019

Serial Number N19717 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

tomkatcustom 3 · October 14, 2019

Serial Number N16121 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

ngleasonmke 5 · March 28, 2019

Serial Number N17771 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Ashraf 149 · March 23, 2019

Serial Number N19841 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · March 10, 2019

Serial Number N18339 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Ranauro 1 · February 14, 2019

Serial Number N13901 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · February 14, 2019

Serial Number N13901 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 19, 2019

Serial Number N14412 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

bogus22 Supporter 83 · December 22, 2018

Serial Number N10420 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · October 29, 2018

Serial Number N18183 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

WLBelkriver33 804 · October 10, 2018

Serial Number N11583 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

MrUniverse 1 · July 31, 2018

Serial Number N14569 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · April 23, 2018

Serial Number N17062 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · April 13, 2018

Serial Number N13365 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Adjusted to EIGHT positions written on movement.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. "8 Adjustments" does not equate to "8 Positions." 8 Adjustments: 6 Positions + 1 Isochronism + 1 Temperature
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · December 23, 2017

Serial Number N17583 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · September 17, 2016

Serial Number N10903 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · April 21, 2016

Serial Number N15470 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · March 31, 2016

Serial Number N10246 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

roadking 36 · March 17, 2016

Serial Number N14992 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · November 11, 2015

Serial Number N12619 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · March 16, 2015

Serial Number N10903 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · March 16, 2015

Serial Number N10903 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · February 25, 2015

Serial Number N11282 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · February 1, 2015

Serial Number N18776 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

cmdraven 4065 · November 8, 2014

Serial Number N19446 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · January 2, 2014

Serial Number N13150 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · March 18, 2013

Serial Number N10077 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 8 adjustments
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · January 11, 2013

Serial Number N16848 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 8, 2012

Serial Number N13201 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 14, 2012

Serial Number N17644 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · August 13, 2012

Serial Number N19044 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · July 30, 2012

Serial Number N13687 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: adjusted to 8 positions
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · May 21, 2012

Serial Number N17214 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Elgin Grade 571 Pocket Watch