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Information Provided by PocketWatchDatabase.com:
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Access Date: December 19, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 571 Pocket Watch
Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 571

B.W. Raymond

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: N802209 Question Mark
Grade: 571 Question Mark
Variation: B.W. Raymond 8ADJ Question Mark
Model: 20 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1951 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 13,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 13 of 26 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 565,000 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 92,000 (16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND 8ADJ) Question Mark
Size: 16s Question Mark
Jewels: 21j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Ball Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 5 Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes Question Mark
Total Adjustments: 8 Question Mark
Railroad Grade: Yes Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 15475.571G13.16S3932.1620M39.O6989.L2522.21J551 Question Mark
Data Research: 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
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Database Version: v52.516 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 1,701.09 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 657.30 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 1.117% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only		58 (0.45%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -3.93% Analyzing 794 Sales Question Mark
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 571

Target Profile: 16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND 8ADJ

Elgin Grade 571 (All Variations): 565,000 ETP
16S: 565,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 571
16S-M20: 565,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 571, Model 20
16S-M20-21J: 565,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 571, Model 20, 21 Jewels
16S-M20-21J-ONL: 565,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 571, Model 20, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel
16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 112,000 19.82% Other: 453,000
Other Adjustments or Unclassified
16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND 8ADJ: 92,000 16.28% Other: 20,000
Other Variants or Unclassified

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

rmwatchandclock Supporter 377 · September 16, 2024

Serial Number N799448 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 16, 2024

Serial Number N798448 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 2, 2024

Serial Number N800712 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

cjbrem Supporter 954 · September 30, 2023

Serial Number N799973 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

cjbrem Supporter 954 · November 12, 2022

Serial Number N802752 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · October 12, 2022

Serial Number N806140 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

ebsrods Supporter 130 · April 2, 2022

Serial Number N804297 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

pmtime Supporter 612 · February 25, 2022

Serial Number N798857 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · November 3, 2021

Serial Number N805701 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

nightstalker638 44 · October 31, 2021

Serial Number N797156 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · May 4, 2021

Serial Number N805891 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · February 5, 2021

Serial Number N804181 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 15, 2021

Serial Number N801862 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 14, 2021

Serial Number N799828 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · December 4, 2020

Serial Number N800067 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · July 30, 2020

Serial Number N801534 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · June 15, 2020

Serial Number N796333 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

gezu111 64 · May 1, 2020

Serial Number N802001 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · March 6, 2020

Serial Number N797131 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Wghutchens Supporter 5 · February 9, 2020

Serial Number N796427 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 25, 2020

Serial Number N798852 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 10, 2020

Serial Number N803559 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 2, 2020

Serial Number N803559 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · December 15, 2019

Serial Number N798966 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · December 7, 2019

Serial Number N799322 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Silvercloud 183 · November 1, 2019

Serial Number N801603 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · June 23, 2019

Serial Number N806815 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Ripken77 31 · June 4, 2019

Serial Number N803367 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · May 3, 2019

Serial Number N795268 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

senorchisme 17 · April 28, 2019

Serial Number N794661 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · February 24, 2019

Serial Number N806036 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

rjbeck 150 · February 18, 2019

Serial Number N796128 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 26, 2019

Serial Number N797345 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · December 22, 2018

Serial Number N796002 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

avpalermo Supporter 644 · December 19, 2018

Serial Number N797864 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

WLBelkriver33 804 · December 2, 2018

Serial Number N801053 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · June 2, 2018

Serial Number N800554 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · May 22, 2018

Serial Number N800017 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · December 1, 2017

Serial Number N799788 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · September 12, 2017

Serial Number N800909 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · September 7, 2017

Serial Number N800574 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

nightstalker638 44 · June 28, 2017

Serial Number N797156 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · June 7, 2017

Serial Number N797138 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · May 25, 2017

Serial Number N800896 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · March 12, 2017

Serial Number N794507 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · March 12, 2017

Serial Number N794507 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · March 12, 2017

Serial Number N803276 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

tkarter 184 · November 4, 2016

Serial Number N801757 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

pmtime Supporter 612 · October 22, 2016

Serial Number N806089 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · October 8, 2016

Serial Number N806751 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement is clearly stamped, 8 adjustments, not 6,
and is B W Raymond
Curator Response: 8 Adjustments does not mean adjusted to 8 positions. 8 Adjustments: 6 Positions + 1 Isochronism + 1 Temperature
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5
Elgin Grade 571 Pocket Watch