Elgin Pocket Watch: Serial Number P663039 (Grade 616)

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Access Date: January 10, 2025

From the American Horology Archive:

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 616

Manufacturer:	Elgin
Manufacturer Location:	Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number:	P663039
Grade:	616
Model:	20
Estimated Production Year:	1951
Run Quantity:	12,000
Grade/Model Run:	7 of 9
Grade/Model Total Production:	60,000
Variant Est. Production:	46,000 (16S-M20-17J-ONP-A3PTI)
Size:	16s
Jewels:	17j
Movement Configuration:	Openface
Movement Finish:	Nickel
Movement Setting:	Pendant
Plate:	3/4 Plate
Barrel:	Going
Train:	Quick
Regulator:	Plain
Adjusted:	Yes
Adjusted # of Positions:	3
Adjusted to Temperature:	Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism:	Yes
Total Adjustments:	5
Railroad Grade:	No
U.S. Patents:	77078
Case:	Various
Run ID:	15495.616G7.16S3937.1620M44.O6994.P12292.17J2633
Database Version:	v52.546
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	180.73
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	69.75
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	0.119%
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only	12 (0.10%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change):	4.71% Analyzing 109 Sales
Research Note: Run record created based on limited observations. Production totals are likely inaccurate. Mixed Run: Movements are either marked "5 Adjustments" or "6 Adjustments."

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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 616

Target Profile: 16S-M20-17J-ONP-A3PTI

Elgin Grade 616 (All Variations): 60,000 ETP
16S: 60,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 616
16S-M20: 60,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 616, Model 20
16S-M20-17J: 60,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 616, Model 20, 17 Jewels
16S-M20-17J-ONP: 60,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 616, Model 20, 17 Jewels, Openface/Pendant/Nickel
16S-M20-17J-ONP-A3PTI: 46,000 76.67%	Other: 14,000 Other Adjustments or Unclassified

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Anonymous · March 2, 2024

Serial Number P668469 was reported as accurate.

OLD4748GUY 1 · April 2, 2023

Serial Number P674957 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Elgin.....Year--1952.....Model-20....Grade-616....
Movement
Ser#--P674957.....Movement--Manual......Style-O/F.
.....Jewels-17......Setting-Pendant.....R.R.
Grade-No.....Size-16s....Total Production for
Year-6,000....Adjusted-Yes.........6-Adjustments

Curator Response: Thanks for the report. The database has been updated accordingly.