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Information Provided by PocketWatchDatabase.com:
https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/elgin/S835243
Access Date: December 11, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 571 Pocket Watch
Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 571

Mixed Run of Late Elgin Grades (556, 554, 575, 607, 618, 642, 650, 661, 670, and 673 Reported)

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: S835243 Question Mark
Grade: 571 Question Mark
Variation: B.W. Raymond 9ADJ Question Mark
Model: 20 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1952 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 394,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 20 of 26 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 565,000 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 453,000 (16S-M20-21J-ONL-A6PTI) Question Mark
Size: 16s Question Mark
Jewels: 21j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Ball Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 6 Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes Question Mark
Total Adjustments: 9 Question Mark
Railroad Grade: Yes Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 15513.571G20.16S3949.1620M56.O7009.L2531.21J565 Question Mark
Database Version: v52.505 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 1,701.09 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 657.30 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 1.117% Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -3.93% Analyzing 794 Sales Question Mark
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 571

Target Profile: 16S-M20-21J-ONL-A6PTI-B.W. RAYMOND 9ADJ

Elgin Grade 571 (All Variations): 565,000 ETP
16S: 565,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 571
16S-M20: 565,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 571, Model 20
16S-M20-21J: 565,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 571, Model 20, 21 Jewels
16S-M20-21J-ONL: 565,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 571, Model 20, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel
16S-M20-21J-ONL-A6PTI: 453,000 80.18% Other: 112,000
Other Adjustments or Unclassified
16S-M20-21J-ONL-A6PTI-B.W. RAYMOND 9ADJ: 453,000 80.18%

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Wadehayes 43 · October 8, 2024

Serial Number S557286 was reported as accurate.

cjbrem Supporter 936 · September 26, 2024

Serial Number S557286 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 22, 2024

Serial Number S557334 was reported as accurate.

doktorij Supporter 2 · January 19, 2024

Serial Number S684420 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Mine is a 618 18j wristwatch, shockmaster
Curator Response: Thanks for the confirmation!

NathanO 1 · December 4, 2023

Serial Number S593258 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: S593258 is a Grade 670 wristwatch movement. 21
jewels.
Curator Response: Thanks for the additional information!

MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 5269 · November 3, 2023

Serial Number S619946 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Elgin 670 21j Wristwatch Movement
Curator Response: Thanks!

MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 5269 · November 1, 2023

Serial Number S790614 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Elgin 673 17j Adjusted
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.

pmtime Supporter 612 · October 2, 2023

Serial Number S557502 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement also marked "B.W. Raymond" and 8
positions. All other listed information is
correct.
Curator Response: Thanks!

Anonymous · August 11, 2022

Serial Number S706334 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Model 571 grade 20 marked 17 jewels

Anonymous · January 5, 2022

Serial Number S939443 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Grade is 554
Curator Response: Thanks for the report.

Anonymous · October 14, 2021

Serial Number S692838 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Serial number S692838 is an Elgin 17 jewel 673
grade ADJ’D wristwatch.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.

Anonymous · August 20, 2021

Serial Number S940290 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: S940290 is a model 554, has 17 Jewels 14s Pendent
wristwatch, Adjusted, not railroad grade,
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.

Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 307 · July 10, 2021

Serial Number S950621 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Nathan, I was poking around looking 16s 19J+
Elgins for sale and comparing them to past sales
and noticed S950621 is listed as a 571 but the
movement photograph shows 575 stamped on the train
bridge. Most likely a typo?
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. This run is mixed with late-production grades. With more known examples surfacing, hopefully we can begin to determine the run segments in the near future. This will begin to correct some of the assigned images for the run.

MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 5269 · January 25, 2021

Serial Number S634556 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 1, 2021

Serial Number S700827 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: It is a wrist watch movement
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.

Anonymous · December 23, 2020

Serial Number S626499 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 21 JEWEL 670 MENS WRISTWATCH MOVEMENT

Anonymous · November 21, 2020

Serial Number S598608 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Marked 21 jewels Adj'd 670
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.

Anonymous · October 11, 2020

Serial Number S664724 was reported as accurate.

MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 5269 · September 28, 2020

Serial Number S710831 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Elgin 642 17j Manual Movement

Anonymous · July 22, 2020

Serial Number S867325 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

CLOCKWORKBRIAN72 50 · July 11, 2020

Serial Number S577144 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 9, 2020

Serial Number S864209 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: I have wrist watch with Caliber 643 , 17 Jewel,
Swiss Made , Inside back case engraved # S864209,
10K Gold Filled

hfoster 1 · January 31, 2020

Serial Number S798039 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

rtwatches 943 · December 30, 2019

Serial Number S937961 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Marked Grade 661 19/0s, 17j, Adj'd

rtwatches 943 · December 14, 2019

Serial Number S559386 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Grade 554 ADJ'D 17 Jewels

Anonymous · November 21, 2019

Serial Number S560428 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · September 26, 2019

Serial Number S787075 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 867

Anonymous · August 7, 2019

Serial Number S917511 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This one is an Elgin Deluxe 17 jewel ladies
wristwatch

Anonymous · July 24, 2019

Serial Number S678338 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: No, s678338 is a model 618 18 jewel, bumper style
automatic winding wristwatch.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.

swhite1750 29 · April 6, 2019

Serial Number S950621 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: For serial number S950621:
Grade 575
4 Adjustments
15 Jewels
Curator Response: Thanks for the report and image uploads. Very helpful.

Anonymous · February 10, 2019

Serial Number S644274 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Lord Elgin SN S644274 is grade 670 stamped into
the plate.
The plate reads "ELGIN 670 U-S-A
21 JEWELS
S644274
AD'J"

Wbridg10 111 · December 27, 2018

Serial Number S950484 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 9, 2018

Serial Number S950146 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 15, 2018

Serial Number S816682 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 23, 2018

Serial Number S557486 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 2, 2018

Serial Number S787108 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · June 17, 2018

Serial Number S559239 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · May 4, 2018

Serial Number S708170 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 642 17 jewels 8/0 size approx.

sheena Supporter 14 · March 13, 2018

Serial Number S645389 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: My # S645389 is a Lord Elgin, 21J, 670

Iatwatch 20 · January 25, 2018

Serial Number S570630 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Basically all wrong
10/0s not 16s
grade 554
marked "ADJ'D"
Pendant set

Anonymous · January 6, 2018

Serial Number S676387 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: The serial S676387 does belonge to a Grade 618
movement. 18 Jewels and Adjusted.

Anonymous · July 28, 2017

Serial Number S911283 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Iatwatch 20 · April 8, 2017

Serial Number S601001 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: grade 670
size 15/0

Anonymous · November 5, 2016

Serial Number S644274 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 21 jewel Lord Elgin wrist watch
Marked on movement as follows:
"21 JEWELS"
"ELGIN 670 U-S-A"
"ADJ'D"

Anonymous · October 22, 2016

Serial Number S786884 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 15, 2016

Serial Number S918514 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 23, 2016

Serial Number S639614 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · May 5, 2016

Serial Number S594444 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This serial number is on a 15/0, 21j Elgin 670
currently on Ebay

Anonymous · May 5, 2016

Serial Number S648734 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This serial number is on a 15/0, 21j Elgin 670
movement, currently on Ebay.

Anonymous · April 11, 2016

Serial Number S768265 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 21 jewel Lord Elgin wrist watch
Elgin Grade 571 Pocket Watch