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Information Provided by PocketWatchDatabase.com:
https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/elgin/S957013/movement
Access Date: December 03, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 571 Pocket Watch
Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 571

B.W. Raymond

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: S957013 Question Mark
Grade: 571 Question Mark
Variation: B.W. Raymond 8ADJ Question Mark
Model: 20 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1952 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 11,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 21 of 26 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 565,000 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 92,000 (16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND 8ADJ) Question Mark
Size: 16s Question Mark
Jewels: 21j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Ball Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 5 Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes Question Mark
Total Adjustments: 8 Question Mark
Railroad Grade: Yes Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 15514.571G21.16S3950.1620M57.O7010.L2532.21J566 Question Mark
Database Version: v52.479 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 1,701.09 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 657.30 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 1.117% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only		45 (0.41%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -3.46% Analyzing 794 Sales Question Mark
Research Note: #S951736: Verified as 21 Jewels.
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 571

Target Profile: 16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND 8ADJ

Elgin Grade 571 (All Variations): 565,000 ETP
16S: 565,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 571
16S-M20: 565,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 571, Model 20
16S-M20-21J: 565,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 571, Model 20, 21 Jewels
16S-M20-21J-ONL: 565,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 571, Model 20, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel
16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 112,000 19.82% Other: 453,000
Other Adjustments or Unclassified
16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND 8ADJ: 92,000 16.28% Other: 20,000
Other Variants or Unclassified

Population Registry for This Run

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Anonymous · September 29, 2024

Serial Number S952133 was reported as accurate.

cjbrem Supporter 928 · March 18, 2024

Serial Number S958533 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 21, 2023

Serial Number S961260 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

awalker1829 Supporter 74 · February 4, 2023

Serial Number S952205 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · November 1, 2022

Serial Number S957438 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · September 8, 2022

Serial Number S956685 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

KD44349 Supporter 1 · August 20, 2022

Serial Number S953014 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · August 16, 2022

Serial Number S960569 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · June 19, 2022

Serial Number S954169 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · June 19, 2022

Serial Number S954169 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Chronified Supporter 212 · June 8, 2022

Serial Number S952205 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

steve288 264 · August 24, 2021

Serial Number S953413 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 26, 2021

Serial Number S955671 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 26, 2021

Serial Number S955671 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · October 6, 2020

Serial Number S959573 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · September 28, 2020

Serial Number S954091 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: BW RAYMOND
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · September 3, 2020

Serial Number S960366 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · July 24, 2020

Serial Number S954986 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · March 29, 2020

Serial Number S951854 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · February 26, 2020

Serial Number S956546 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · February 26, 2020

Serial Number S956546 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · February 26, 2020

Serial Number S956546 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · February 26, 2020

Serial Number S956546 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

darkstar 247 · October 20, 2019

Serial Number S955282 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Mvt marked as B W Raymond
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

darkstar 247 · October 20, 2019

Serial Number S955282 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · August 23, 2019

Serial Number S952614 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

natgoldex 5 · August 13, 2019

Serial Number S961156 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · August 6, 2019

Serial Number S958970 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · February 22, 2019

Serial Number S958688 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · February 14, 2019

Serial Number S959319 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Andrew9000 85 · January 16, 2019

Serial Number S953587 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

WLBelkriver33 804 · November 19, 2018

Serial Number S956861 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

corebit 24 · November 13, 2018

Serial Number S957096 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

todix144 76 · November 11, 2018

Serial Number S958413 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · March 31, 2018

Serial Number S958256 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

clockingscotty 112 · January 11, 2018

Serial Number S959387 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Perhaps positions plus temp = 8 adjustments?
This reads:
ELGIN 571 U-S-A
S 959387 (LINE) 8 ADJUSTMENTS (LINE) 21 JEWELS
Curator Response: 8 Adjustments: 5 Positions + 1 Isochronism + 1 Heat + 1 Cold
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

amcfarlane Supporter 32 · October 20, 2017

Serial Number S960053 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

todix144 76 · July 28, 2017

Serial Number S958413 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

garydurie Supporter 29 · April 29, 2017

Serial Number S956536 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · February 16, 2017

Serial Number S957025 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 19, 2017

Serial Number S957025 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 11, 2017

Serial Number S961267 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · December 17, 2016

Serial Number S961422 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · September 15, 2016

Serial Number S958114 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · June 13, 2016

Serial Number S960527 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

giptwatchrepair 26 · May 12, 2016

Serial Number S955963 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · April 11, 2016

Serial Number S953683 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · March 28, 2016

Serial Number S961963 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: I have serial number S961963 and it is marked "9
ADJUSTMENTS"
Curator Response: 9 Adjustments: 6 Positions + 1 Isochronism + 1 Heat + 1 Cold
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 23, 2016

Serial Number S957013 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · October 30, 2015

Serial Number S955940 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Mvt #S955940..BW Raymond has 8 Adj and 21J
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 19j to 21j
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5
Elgin Grade 571 Pocket Watch