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Access Date: May 15, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Illinois Watch Co.
Grade: 114
| Manufacturer: | Illinois |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Springfield, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 1265742 | |
| Grade: | 114 | |
| Model: | 1 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1895 | |
| Run Quantity: | 200 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 37 of 37 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 5,900 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 4,700 (16S-M1-15J) | |
| Size: | 16s | |
| Jewels: | 15j | |
| Jewel Setting: | Screw-Set | |
| Movement Configuration: | Hunting | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Black | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Regulator: | Reed | |
| Hairspring: | Breguet | |
| Standard Dial Type: | Single-Sunk | |
| Adjusted: | No | |
| Railroad Grade: | No | |
| Dial Feet Locations: | 8.5, 24.5, 45.0 | |
| Case Screw Locations: | 22.5, 49.0 | |
| Movement Markings: | Illinois Watch Co. Springfield Safety Pinion |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 2828.114G56.16S212.161M134.H1466.L1964.15J613 | |
| Database Version: | v52.284 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 17.76 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 61.04 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.104% | |
| Registry Population: | 2 (1.00%) | |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 114
Target Profile: 16S-M1-15J-HNL-U
| Illinois Grade 114 (All Variations): 8,800 ETP | |||
| 16S: 8,800 100.00% 16s, Grade 114 |
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| 16S-M1: 5,900 67.05% 16s, Grade 114, Model 1 |
Other: 2,900
Other Models or Unclassified |
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| 16S-M1-15J: 4,700 53.41% 16s, Grade 114, Model 1, 15 Jewels |
Other: 1,200
Other Jewels or Unclassified |
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| 16S-M1-15J-HNL: 4,700 53.41% 16s, Grade 114, Model 1, 15 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Nickel |
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| 16S-M1-15J-HNL-U: 4,700 53.41% | |||
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 2 watches in the population registry for this run with 1 image.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
PHIL1199 Supporter 974 · May 23, 2022
Serial Number 1265885 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from Yes to No
Railroad Grade changed from Yes to No
oilseed Supporter 470 · November 24, 2016
Serial Number 1265742 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: No disrespect, but I believe the 'jewel count'
(17J) is incorrect for this SR# 1265742. Looking
at the train bridge plate, there is 'no jewel' on
the center wheel pivot. To get to 16 jewels (or
higher) you would 'have' to have this pivot
jeweled. to get to 17J, the center wheel pivot
(on both ends) (jewel on the main plate, under the
dial) would also have to exist. this is
'extremely rare' for model 1, 2 or 3's. I checked
Roy and Bill's Book (Vol2) and it does say that
SR#'s 1265701 to 1265900 (200 units) have 17J's.
This may be a typo and should say 15J (which is
what the picture evidence suggests for this
movement). No way to prove this for all SR#'s in
this range unless all were inspected (which is
unlikely). if the owner of this movement were to
remove the dial and confirm the jewel count, we
could have confirmation that 'at least' this
movement is 15J.
(17J) is incorrect for this SR# 1265742. Looking
at the train bridge plate, there is 'no jewel' on
the center wheel pivot. To get to 16 jewels (or
higher) you would 'have' to have this pivot
jeweled. to get to 17J, the center wheel pivot
(on both ends) (jewel on the main plate, under the
dial) would also have to exist. this is
'extremely rare' for model 1, 2 or 3's. I checked
Roy and Bill's Book (Vol2) and it does say that
SR#'s 1265701 to 1265900 (200 units) have 17J's.
This may be a typo and should say 15J (which is
what the picture evidence suggests for this
movement). No way to prove this for all SR#'s in
this range unless all were inspected (which is
unlikely). if the owner of this movement were to
remove the dial and confirm the jewel count, we
could have confirmation that 'at least' this
movement is 15J.
Curator Response: I agree with your assessment. We now have evidence to indicate this range as 15-Jewel. Until more examples are found, we will change this run to display as 15-Jewel.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 17j to 15j
ethanfg 6 · January 5, 2015
Serial Number 1265742 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 17j to 15j
Plate changed from Full to 3/4
Anonymous · January 5, 2015
Serial Number 1265742 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 17j to 15j
Plate changed from Full to 3/4
