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Access Date: April 26, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Illinois Watch Co.
Grade: Sangamo
Mixed Run: 21-Jewel and 23-Jewel Movements
Private Label(s) in Run:
Ariston U.S.A.
Benjamin Franklin U.S.A.
Grover Ulysses
What is a Private Label?| Manufacturer: | Illinois |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Springfield, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 1977495 | |
| Grade: | Sangamo | |
| Model: | 4 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1907 | |
| Run Quantity: | 200 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 35 of 57 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 7,385 | |
| Size: | 16s | |
| Jewels: | 23j Mixed Run | |
| Jewel Material: | Ruby | |
| Jewel Setting: | Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
| Movement Configuration: | Hunting | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Finish Pattern: | Bright-spotted | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Double Roller: | Yes | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train Material: | Gold | |
| Center Wheel Material: | Gold | |
| Regulator: | Micrometric | |
| Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 6 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| Dial Feet Locations: | 24.5, 36.5, 55.5 | |
| Case Screw Locations: | 18.5, 52.5 | |
| Movement Markings: | Sangamo Illinois Watch Co. Springfield Adjusted [Some Marked "Temperature 6 Positions Isochronism"] [Some Marked "Safety Pinion"] [Some Marked "Double Roller"] [21, 23, or 25] Ruby Jewels |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 5901.G87.16S1372.164M654.H3006.L4750.23J44 | |
| Database Version: | v52.245 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 22.23 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 74.95 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.130% | |
| Registry Population: | 4 (2.00%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | 0.63% Analyzing 82 Sales | |
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Research Note: #1977507: Marked "Aristan U.S.A.; 21 Ruby Jewels; Adjusted; Temperature; 6 Positions; Isochronism; Double Roller" [NAWCC] #1977417: Verified as private label marked "Grover Ulysses" with a custom damaskeening pattern.
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Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 4 watches in the population registry for this run with 3 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · November 24, 2023
Serial Number 1977507 was reported as accurate.
Ellingsworth 2 · December 29, 2022
Serial Number 1977417 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Unique movement damaskeening not previously seen
on Sangamo. And 21 ruby jewels, not 23. Private
label to Grover Ulysses.
on Sangamo. And 21 ruby jewels, not 23. Private
label to Grover Ulysses.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. The database has been updated accordingly.
cliffdobbins Supporter 296 · September 14, 2022
Serial Number 1977577 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 18, 2021
Serial Number 1977560 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 24, 2019
Serial Number 1977417 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: 21 jewel and sunburst pattern. very unique.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.
Kevinclardy 3 · October 4, 2018
Serial Number 1977495 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 25, 2018
Serial Number 1977495 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 2, 2018
Serial Number 1977417 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Marked 21 ruby jewel
Anonymous · September 25, 2017
Serial Number 1977495 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: 23 jewels
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 21j to 23j
Tempusfugit207 Supporter 4 · January 7, 2015
Serial Number 1977450 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Serial number 1977450 is a 21 jewel
Anonymous · January 29, 2014
Serial Number 1977428 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: specialy adjusted
Anonymous · November 17, 2012
Serial Number 1977495 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: 23 jewel
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 21j to 23j
Double Roller changed from Unknown to Yes
Anonymous · October 25, 2012
Serial Number 1977495 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: This watch Sr.# 1977495 is marked 23j not 2j
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 21j to 23j
Double Roller changed from Unknown to Yes
Anonymous · October 19, 2012
Serial Number 1977495 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: THIS IS 23 JEWELS
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 21j to 23j
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