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Access Date: December 20, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Illinois Grade 410 Pocket Watch
Illinois Watch Co.

Grade: 410

Mixed Run: Openface (Model 5) and Hunting (Model 6) Examples Verified in Run

Manufacturer: Illinois Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Springfield, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 4477516 Question Mark
Grade: 410 Question Mark
Model: 5 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1923 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 1,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 12 of 14 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 4,140 Question Mark
Size: 12s Question Mark
Jewels: 23j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Pendant Question Mark
Plate: Bridge Plate Question Mark
Bridge Type: Center Question Mark
Barrel: Jeweled Motor Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 6 Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
Dial Feet Locations: 5.5, 24.0, 40.0 Question Mark
Case Screw Locations: 2.5, 35.5 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 11787.410G18.12S1864.125M12.O6535.P4317.23J253 Question Mark
Database Version: v52.516 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 12.46 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 41.97 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 0.073% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only		20 (2.00%) Question Mark
Research Note: #4477516 Verified as Model 6 (Hunting). #4477214, #4477869 Verified as Model 5 (Openface). #4477183, #4477369, #4477564, #4477943 Reported as Model 5 (Openface). #4477685 Reported as Model 5 (Openface) but verified to be a Model 6 (Hunting) fitted with a dial without a seconds bit. #4477150: Verified as Openface [JH]
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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Anonymous · November 7, 2023

Serial Number 4477883 was reported as accurate.

tctimepieces Supporter 112 · October 2, 2023

Serial Number 4477061 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 1, 2023

Serial Number 4477626 was reported as accurate.

tctimepieces Supporter 112 · June 15, 2023

Serial Number 4477270 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 12, 2022

Serial Number 4477521 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 20, 2022

Serial Number 4477676 was reported as accurate.

JuliusSqueezer 2 · November 17, 2021

Serial Number 4477156 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 8, 2021

Serial Number 4477602 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 17, 2021

Serial Number 4477583 was reported as accurate.

Ronn2skh Supporter 8 · October 3, 2020

Serial Number 4477093 was reported as accurate.

TimeFlysByDiva 20 · March 30, 2020

Serial Number 4477253 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 9, 2020

Serial Number 4477253 was reported as accurate.

Humphrey Supporter 48 · June 9, 2019

Serial Number 4477409 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 22, 2019

Serial Number 4477561 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 16, 2018

Serial Number 4477372 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 2, 2018

Serial Number 4477968 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 8, 2018

Serial Number 4477685 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This movement is, like the item pictured, an open
face configuration, not huntr. # 4477685.
Curator Response: Research Note: Verified to be a Model 6 (Hunting) movement fitted with a dial without a seconds bit. [NAWCC Forum]
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 20, 2018

Serial Number 4477295 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Msw233 Supporter 90 · April 25, 2017

Serial Number 4477532 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Brycef 107 · January 23, 2017

Serial Number 4477603 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

london813 5 · January 7, 2017

Serial Number 4477943 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This would be a Model 5 not 6 and Open Face not
Hunting
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · December 22, 2016

Serial Number 4477024 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 16, 2016

Serial Number 4477869 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · December 9, 2015

Serial Number 4477753 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · December 9, 2015

Serial Number 4477753 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · March 4, 2015

Serial Number 4477710 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · September 26, 2014

Serial Number 4477183 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Clarification: this one is open face
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · September 26, 2014

Serial Number 4477183 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Msw233 Supporter 90 · September 9, 2014

Serial Number 4477199 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Model 5, open face (Aprox. 3,000 produced
1920-1927)
There were Aprox. 500 Model 6 (hunters) produced,
all in 1923.
Also a Model 3 open face, 740 produced and a
Model 4 hunter, 140 produced.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Msw233 Supporter 90 · August 9, 2014

Serial Number 4477516 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Model 6, hunting configuration movement converted
to open face case with no second pivot.

Msw233 Supporter 90 · August 1, 2014

Serial Number 4477369 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Model 5 openface.
Model 6 are hunters.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · July 8, 2014

Serial Number 4477734 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

peter777 3 · May 25, 2014

Serial Number 4477943 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Not hunter case but open face
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

TimeAntiquarian Founder Research Expert Historian Top Contributor Supporter 171 · June 5, 2013

Serial Number 4478000 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · May 29, 2013

Serial Number 4477214 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Open Face not Hunter, although model 6 Open Faced
are not supposed to have no "second's" hand.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 23, 2013

Serial Number 4477016 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Open faced movement. Pendent wind & set at the 12
position
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · December 19, 2012

Serial Number 4477564 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · December 17, 2012

Serial Number 4477564 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Not a Hunting configuration. Sits nicely in a six
sided 14k white gold case and is currently for
sale on eBay.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 6 to 5
Illinois Grade 410 Pocket Watch