Pocket Watch Database


From the American Horology Archive:
Illinois Grade 161 Pocket Watch

Illinois Watch Co.

Grade: 161

Mixed Run: 161, 161A, Type II, Type IIE, Type IIB

Manufacturer: Illinois Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Springfield, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 5480409 Question Mark
Grade: 161 Question Mark
Variation: 161 Type II Question Mark
Model: 14 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1931 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 1,300 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 4 of 4 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 5,300 Question Mark
Size: 16s Question Mark
Jewels: 21j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Finish Pattern: Ray Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Barrel: 60-Hr. Motor Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 6 Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade: Yes Question Mark
Dial Feet Locations: 17.5, 39.0, 58.0 Question Mark
Case Screw Locations: 3.0, 38.0 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 12689.161G8.16S4100.1614M146.O7239.L7167.21J1531 Question Mark
Research References: American Pocket Watches: Illinois Watch Co.: Volume 2. (William Meggers & Roy Ehrhardt)
The 16 Size Illinois Bunn Special, 1913-1948. (Michael Chamelin)
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.427 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
15.95 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
53.76 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.093% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
44 (3.38%) Question Mark
Research Note: Mixed with 161 Type IIE (Elinvar) Model 15. Estimated Split Run by Chamelin.

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · March 21, 2024

Serial Number 5480211 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · January 22, 2024

Serial Number 5480940 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Rlegg6 Supporter 6 · November 6, 2022

Serial Number 5480691 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · June 2, 2022

Serial Number 5481034 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · June 24, 2021

Serial Number 5481137 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · June 3, 2021

Serial Number 5480226 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · January 5, 2021

Serial Number 5480546 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

JoeWyse 2 · December 12, 2020

Serial Number 5480495 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · November 19, 2020

Serial Number 5480550 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · August 8, 2020

Serial Number 5480380 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 161 typeE model15 eBay 313163749676
Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · August 8, 2020

Serial Number 5480380 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · August 3, 2020

Serial Number 5480647 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · August 3, 2020

Serial Number 5480347 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · July 28, 2020

Serial Number 5480380 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · May 30, 2020

Serial Number 5480207 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · March 1, 2019

Serial Number 5480214 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 161a to 161
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · November 30, 2018

Serial Number 5480223 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 161a to 161
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · November 11, 2018

Serial Number 5480814 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 161a to 161
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · October 6, 2018

Serial Number 5480813 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 161a to 161
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

ray3211 2 · February 19, 2018

Serial Number 5480495 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Actually it is marked "161" with "Elinvar" marked
on ball cock
Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 161a to 161
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

ray3211 2 · February 1, 2018

Serial Number 5480495 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: The movement is labeled "161" not 161A
Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 161a to 161
Factory Model changed from 15 to 14

Anonymous · January 2, 2017

Serial Number 5481189 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 161/161a to 161

Anonymous · September 10, 2016

Serial Number 5480675 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 161/161a to 161

rwjwatch 30 · July 21, 2015

Serial Number 5480843 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 161/161a to 161

Anonymous · July 14, 2015

Serial Number 5480769 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 161/161a to 161

RonKaplewicz 6 · January 11, 2015

Serial Number 5480101 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 161/161a to 161

smoken 110 · June 18, 2014

Serial Number 5480826 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement marked Bunn Specical Elinvar
Adjusted temp and 6 positions
Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 161/161a to 161

rwjwatch 30 · April 2, 2014

Serial Number 5480943 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 161/161a to 161

Anonymous · July 26, 2013

Serial Number 5480675 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 161/161a to 161

Anonymous · May 17, 2013

Serial Number 5480152 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 161/161a to 161

Anonymous · July 14, 2012

Serial Number 5480715 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 161/161a to 161
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes
Illinois Grade 161 Pocket Watch