Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Illinois Grade Miller Pocket Watch

Illinois Watch Co.

Grade: Miller

Private Label(s) in Run:

Max Forchheimer - Cleveland, O.

What is a Private Label?
Manufacturer: Illinois Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Springfield, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 56514 Question Mark
Grade: Miller Question Mark
Model: 3 Question Mark
Class: 3 Question Mark
Estimated Production Date: May 1880 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 100 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 3 of 22 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 3,200 Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 17j Question Mark
Jewel Setting: Scribed Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Gilt Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: Full Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Balance Type: Expansion Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Plain Question Mark
Hairspring: Flat Question Mark
Standard Dial Type: Single-Sunk Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade Classification: Class C Question Mark
Dial Feet Locations: 1.5, 21.5, 38.0 Question Mark
Case Screw Locations: 23.5, 51.5 Question Mark
Movement Markings: Miller
Springfield, Ill.
Patent Pinion
[Some Marked "Adjusted"]
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 111.G22.18S111.183M14.O15.L39.17J12 Question Mark
Database Version: v52.517 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
9.63 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
32.42 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.056% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
1 (1.00%) Question Mark

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · August 1, 2018

Serial Number 56514 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Serial number 56514 has the city of Cleveland, O
inside. Does this indicate an error on your site?
Curator Response: No error. #56514 is seen as a private label watch made for "Max Forchheimer; Cleveland, O." by the Illinois Watch Company.

Anonymous · July 13, 2014

Serial Number 56542 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Accurate with the following additions:
transitional key-wind stem-wind, full gilt plate,
probably quick train, marked"adjusted" on the
balance cock, blued pillar, jewel and case screws,
super fine looking!

Cheers. duffy l.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Gilt or Nickel to Gilt
Illinois Grade Miller Pocket Watch