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https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/waltham/17051966
Access Date: December 01, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
American Waltham Watch Co.

Grade: Assorted

Special Mixed Run: Various Sizes and Private Label Movements

Private Label(s) in Run:

Made Expressly for Tiffany & Co.
Patrician
J.Q.Hatch
E.C.Carpenter

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Manufacturer: Waltham Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Waltham, Massachusetts Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 17051966 Question Mark
Grade: Assorted Question Mark
Model: Asst Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1908 Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Pendant Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Total Adjustments: 5 Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Data Research: 1954 Waltham "Gray Book" List
NAWCC Waltham Serial Digest
 Question Mark
Database Version: v52.476 Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only		13 (1.30%) Question Mark
Research Note: #17051874: Verified as 14-Size Colonial Series Movement Marked "Made Expressly for Tiffany & Co." ("Tierany & Cox") with 19 Jewels, Cut Down to 12s. [JT]
#17051802: Verified as Colonial Series Movement Marked "Made Expressly for Tiffany & Co." with 23 Jewels (Grade Riverside Maximus). [JT]
#17051566: 10-ligne movement, hunting, 17 jewels, pin-set, private label "Patrician" [JT]
#7051657: 6/0s hunting movement with 17 jewels, (probable Ruby grade) and private label "Patrician" [JT]
#17051837: Colonial Series, 19 jewels Riverside, private label marked "Waltham Patrician" [JT]
#17051966: 0-size, open-face, 19 jewels (Maximus equivalent) private label marked "Patrician" [JT]

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Image Serial Number Run Position Primary Identification Method Discovery Date
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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

JerryT Waltham Expert Small Watch Expert 425 · December 13, 2021

Serial Number 17051566 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 17051566 is a 10-ligne movement, hunting
configuration, 17 jewels, pin-set, private label
"Patrician"
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. This information has been noted in the research notes for this run.

JerryT Waltham Expert Small Watch Expert 425 · December 13, 2021

Serial Number 17051657 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 17051657 is a 6/0 hunting movement with 17 jewels
(probable Ruby grade) and private label
"Patrician"

JerryT Waltham Expert Small Watch Expert 425 · December 13, 2021

Serial Number 17051837 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 17051837 is Colonial Series, 19 jewels Riverside
private label marked "Waltham Patrician"

JerryT Waltham Expert Small Watch Expert 425 · December 13, 2021

Serial Number 17051966 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 17051966 is 0-size, open-face, 19 jewels (Maximus
equivalent) private label marked "Patrician"

JerryT Waltham Expert Small Watch Expert 425 · December 12, 2021

Serial Number 17051802 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This is a Colonial Series movement marked for
Tiffany & Co.
It has 23 jewels and is a Riverside Maximus grade
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. This information has been noted in the research notes for this run.

JerryT Waltham Expert Small Watch Expert 425 · August 8, 2021

Serial Number 17051874 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 17051874 is a 19j 14-size Colonial Series
bridge-style movement, originally marked for
Tiffany & Co. It has been cut down to 12-size and
modified to read Tierany & Cox.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. This information has been noted in the research notes for this run.

Anonymous · October 12, 2019

Serial Number 17052325 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This movement is in a hunter configuration...
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.

Anonymous · December 20, 2018

Serial Number 17051876 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Stem wind, adjusted, stem set
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Either to Openface
Movement Setting changed from Key to Pendant
Adjusted changed from No to Yes