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RARE 2-Tone 1909 Waltham 18S Special M1883 21J Salesman Pocket Watch 500 Made
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Access Date: March 24, 2025
From the American Horology Archive:
Waltham Grade Special M1883 21J Pocket Watch
American Waltham Watch Co.

Grade: Special M1883 21J

Manufacturer: Waltham Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Waltham, Massachusetts Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 17858888 Question Mark
Grade: Special M1883 21J Question Mark
Model: 1883 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1909 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 250 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 3 of 3 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 700 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 500 (18S-M1883-21J-OTP) Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 21j Question Mark
Jewel Setting: Screw-Set Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Two-Tone Question Mark
Movement Signing Style: Mixed Question Mark
Movement Inlay Color: Black Question Mark
Movement Setting: Pendant Question Mark
Plate: Full Plate Question Mark
Regulator: Ohlson 1906 Question Mark
Hairspring: Breguet Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
Movement Markings: American Waltham Watch Co.
21 Jewels.
Safety Pinion
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 21559.G3.18S11947.181883M3291.O13397.P6853.21J384 Question Mark
Data Research: 1954 Waltham "Gray Book" List
NAWCC Waltham Serial Digest
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Database Version: v52.624 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 2.10 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 1.92 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 0.002% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only		6 (2.40%) Question Mark
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade Special M1883 21J

Target Profile: 18S-M1883-21J-OTP-A

Waltham Grade Special M1883 21J (All Variations): 700 ETP
18S: 700 100.00%
18s, Grade Special M1883 21J
18S-M1883: 700 100.00%
18s, Grade Special M1883 21J, Model 1883
18S-M1883-21J: 700 100.00%
18s, Grade Special M1883 21J, Model 1883, 21 Jewels
18S-M1883-21J-OTP: 500 71.43%
18s, Grade Special M1883 21J, Model 1883, 21 Jewels, Openface/Pendant/Two-Tone 		Other: 200
Other Configs or Unclassified
18S-M1883-21J-OTP-A: 500 71.43%

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Anonymous · May 29, 2018

Serial Number 17858940 was reported as accurate.

pocketwatch101 111 · May 5, 2018

Serial Number 17858967 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 29, 2017

Serial Number 17858859 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 22, 2017

Serial Number 17858766 was reported as accurate.

wabash 134 · May 11, 2017

Serial Number 17858967 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 17858967 is on eBay with 3 days to go (not mine)
#311847962165
It is a 2 Tone movement the same as the 17858888
reported below
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Gilt or Nickel to Two-Tone

Anonymous · April 17, 2017

Serial Number 17858967 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Gilt or Nickel to Two-Tone

Gimparoo Supporter 703 · October 14, 2016

Serial Number 17858985 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Gilt or Nickel to Two-Tone

pocketwatch101 111 · January 24, 2015

Serial Number 17858888 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: I have submitted a inaccurate description based on
the production count of 31,905 from this site.
NAWCC's information side lists this movement as
First:17858751 Last:17859000 with a total run of
249. I believe that to be more correct
considering the rarity of this (Model, Special).
At the least there is a conflict is accurate
reporting.

RonKaplewicz 6 · January 12, 2015

Serial Number 17858885 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This watch serial number 17858885 Waltham I
believe the total production on your info is far
too high. This is an extremely rare watch, and
carries a retail value of OVER $4,000

harrington 99 · October 13, 2014

Serial Number 17858778 was reported as accurate.

Waltham Grade Special M1883 21J Pocket Watch