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Information Provided by PocketWatchDatabase.com:
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Access Date: November 24, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Waltham Grade No. 1621 Pocket Watch
American Waltham Watch Co.

Grade: No. 1621

Mixed Run: 21-Jewel and 23-Jewel Movements

Manufacturer: Waltham Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Waltham, Massachusetts Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 30497417 Question Mark
Grade: No. 1621 Question Mark
Variation: Riverside Question Mark
Model: 1908 Question Mark
Estimated Production Date: April 1940 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 2,097 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 14 of 22 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 77,738 Question Mark
Size: 16s Question Mark
Jewels: 21j    Mixed Run Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: Bridge Plate Question Mark
Regulator: Plain Question Mark
Hairspring: Breguet Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: No Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 940117 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 25746.G14.16S3903.161908M1441.O15995.L5587.21J621 Question Mark
Data Research: 1954 Waltham "Gray Book" List
NAWCC Waltham Serial Digest
 Question Mark
Database Version: v52.457 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 234.05 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 212.98 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 0.233% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only		22 (1.05%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 10.71% Analyzing 453 Sales Question Mark
Research Note: Waltham Serial Lists designate this run as grade No. 1621 with 21 Jewels. However, multiple reports indicate a mixed run with 23-Jewel movements.
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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

pmtime Supporter 612 · April 29, 2024

Serial Number 30497834 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 30497834 is marked "21 Jewels", "adj. temp" and
"Riverside". It is a lever set (11 o'clock) and
all other listed info looks correct.

Anonymous · December 20, 2023

Serial Number 30498494 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 8, 2022

Serial Number 30497139 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 30497130 is marked Vanguard, 23 jewel adjusted, 6
positions, lever set, stem wound, dial marked
Vanguard 23 Jewels,
Curator Response: Thanks for the confirmation!

Anonymous · September 4, 2021

Serial Number 30497370 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 30, 2021

Serial Number 30498069 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 13, 2021

Serial Number 30498463 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · January 3, 2021

Serial Number 30497139 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement is 23 jewel.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · January 3, 2021

Serial Number 30497139 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · December 31, 2020

Serial Number 30497650 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · November 7, 2020

Serial Number 30497075 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: PREMIER VANGUARD MODEL
23 JEWELS
ADJUSTED TO 6 POSITIONS
RAILROAD GRADE
Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · August 6, 2020

Serial Number 30497903 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · July 19, 2020

Serial Number 30497903 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · January 9, 2019

Serial Number 30498463 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: this is railroad grade
Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · November 5, 2018

Serial Number 30497085 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: I have this watch in my possession for repair and
this serial number watch is a 16 size open face,
lever set, 23 jewel vanguard pressed jewel model
adjusted 6 positions. "vanguard 23 jewel" on the
dial as well as on the movement . Your data base
indicates it is a 21 jewel, not railroad grade.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. Waltham Serial Lists designate the run as having 21 jewels. Though, these factory lists commonly merge similar grades. Feel free to upload an image of your watch for further evaluation.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · September 21, 2018

Serial Number 30498965 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Waltham21j 121 · June 12, 2018

Serial Number 30497480 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · October 27, 2016

Serial Number 30498755 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · May 29, 2015

Serial Number 30498195 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

allamerican 48 · March 13, 2015

Serial Number 30497056 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 6 positions
nickel finnish
23 jewels
vanguard model
Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · January 21, 2015

Serial Number 30497195 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 23 jewel
Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · December 10, 2014

Serial Number 30496954 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

kraonwatch 1 · September 21, 2014

Serial Number 30497236 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · August 23, 2014

Serial Number 30498846 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

silversonic 2 · March 21, 2014

Serial Number 30498868 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · March 21, 2014

Serial Number 30498868 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

silversonic 2 · March 10, 2014

Serial Number 30498868 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · November 24, 2013

Serial Number 30498918 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · November 6, 2013

Serial Number 30498872 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Waltham21j 121 · September 16, 2013

Serial Number 30497480 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · September 13, 2013

Serial Number 30497062 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This watch (30497062) is a Waltham Vanguard
Premier 23 jewel railroad grade watch.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · July 10, 2013

Serial Number 30497417 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · April 13, 2013

Serial Number 30497962 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge
Waltham Grade No. 1621 Pocket Watch