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From the American Horology Archive:
Waltham Grade No. 1617 Pocket Watch

American Waltham Watch Co.

Grade: No. 1617

Mixed Run: 23-Jewel Vanguard Confirmed in Run

Manufacturer: Waltham Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Waltham, Massachusetts Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 33129769 Question Mark
Grade: No. 1617 Question Mark
Model: 1908 Question Mark
Estimated Production Date: April 1948 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 5,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 10 of 11 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 82,000 Question Mark
Size: 16s Question Mark
Jewels: 17j    Mixed Run Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Pendant Question Mark
Plate: Bridge Plate Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Total Adjustments: 3 Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 26007.G10.16S3948.161908M1473.O16202.P10645.17J3182 Question Mark
Data Research: 1954 Waltham "Gray Book" List
NAWCC Waltham Serial Digest
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.470 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
246.88 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
224.66 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.245% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
18 (0.36%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 3.57% Analyzing 140 Sales Question Mark

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · August 20, 2023

Serial Number 33133371 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · April 14, 2023

Serial Number 33129706 was reported as accurate.

sgoergens 2 · April 10, 2023

Serial Number 33133378 was reported as accurate.

cmdraven 4083 · November 7, 2022

Serial Number 33129028 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 1, 2022

Serial Number 33129377 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 25, 2021

Serial Number 33130227 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Model is stamped 16-A 17 jewels 5 adj
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.

Anonymous · January 19, 2021

Serial Number 33130366 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 15, 2021

Serial Number 33130366 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 31, 2020

Serial Number 33129769 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement marked cal 16A , adjusted to 5 positions
Curator Response: Thanks for the report and images. This movement has 5 Adjustments (not adjusted to 5 Positions). The lookup information has been updated accordingly.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · August 27, 2020

Serial Number 33132694 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · February 13, 2020

Serial Number 33132829 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

BOBTICTAC1940 34 · December 29, 2018

Serial Number 33130801 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · February 14, 2017

Serial Number 33131116 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · January 4, 2017

Serial Number 33129461 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · December 1, 2016

Serial Number 33131756 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This watch is for sale on eBay and has excellent
pictures shoeing a 1948 Waltham Vanguard 16s 23
jewel that is clearly stamped 8 adjustments, yes
8. It doesn't state as to railroad grade, but I am
sure that it is. The serial # is very visible and
the value is showing the quality of the watch.
Over $250. with 2 days left ?
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · November 14, 2016

Serial Number 33132133 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · April 21, 2016

Serial Number 33130246 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

jblenis 22 · April 5, 2015

Serial Number 33130457 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Different from the plate illustration. The finger
holding the escapement wheel is combined with the
plate above it. Also, the movement is stamped
16A.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from Unknown to Bridge

carveraudio 4 · August 8, 2014

Serial Number 33130518 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · December 30, 2013

Serial Number 33132296 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · December 30, 2013

Serial Number 33132296 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

tsapala 97 · November 27, 2013

Serial Number 33130335 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · September 14, 2013

Serial Number 33132060 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from Unknown to Bridge
Waltham Grade No. 1617 Pocket Watch