Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 239

Veritas or "No. 349"

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 11505990 Question Mark
Grade: 239 Question Mark
Variation: Mixed Question Mark
Model: 8 Question Mark
Generation: First Question Mark
Class: 90 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1905 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 1,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 13 of 17 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 18,800 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 2,000 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED) Question Mark
Grade/Model Unrealized Production: 1,200 Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 21j Question Mark
Jewel Material: Ruby Question Mark
Jewel Setting: Raised Gold Settings (Screw-Set) Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Signing Style: Mixed Question Mark
Movement Inlay Color: Black Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Double Roller: Yes Question Mark
Barrel: Safety Question Mark
Balance Jewel Material: Diamond Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Train Material: Gold Question Mark
Center Wheel Material: Gold Question Mark
Regulator: Traveling Nut (spring) Question Mark
Hairspring: Breguet Question Mark
Escapement Type: Straight-line Question Mark
Pallet Jewel Material: Sapphire Question Mark
Standard Dial Type: Double-Sunk Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 5 Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade Classification: Class A Question Mark
Wind Indicator: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 596407, 77078, 596408 Question Mark
Movement Markings: Veritas [or "No. 349"]
Elgin, Ill.
U.S.A.
21 Jewels
Adjusted
Safety Barrel
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 4909.239G13.18S2343.188M49.O1523.L1632.21J126 Question Mark
Data Research: 1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.468 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
56.60 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
21.82 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.037% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
21 (2.10%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -3.00% Analyzing 219 Sales Question Mark
Research Note: The last ~100 movements from this run are marked "No. 349" instead of "Veritas."

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


nicnic Supporter 405 · August 21, 2023

Serial Number 11505771 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 13, 2021

Serial Number 11505632 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 18, 2021

Serial Number 11505979 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: All accurate except this one is originally marked
"No. 349" where the "Veritas" would otherwise be.
Mixed run? Stray? cheers duffy l.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. The database has been updated accordingly.

Anonymous · November 22, 2020

Serial Number 11505436 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 8, 2020

Serial Number 11505868 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 2, 2019

Serial Number 11505786 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 12, 2018

Serial Number 11505039 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 25, 2017

Serial Number 11505094 was reported as accurate.

dfchong 837 · December 16, 2016

Serial Number 11505200 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 26, 2014

Serial Number 11505688 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 22, 2014

Serial Number 11505503 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 27, 2013

Serial Number 11505594 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

LeroyC 392 · September 9, 2013

Serial Number 11505523 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Marked ADJUSTED on balance cock (number of
positions adjusted to not indicated on movement),
no wind indicator on this S/N.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · March 16, 2013

Serial Number 11505977 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: adjusted 5 positions, no winding indicator, marked
"no 349" instead of Veritas
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · November 25, 2012

Serial Number 11505951 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: My watch is not a wind indicator. All other info
is correct
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Double Roller changed from Unknown to Yes

Anonymous · May 15, 2012

Serial Number 11505274 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: My watch doesn't have a winding indicator.
But the rest of the information in correct.
Thank you for having this site available, it is a
great resource.
Harley R Gibson
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch