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Access Date: December 16, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 274
Mixed Run: "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co." or "Father Time" or "Veritas" or "B.W. Raymond"
Manufacturer: | Elgin | |
Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
Movement Serial Number: | 11587552 | |
Grade: | 274 | |
Variation: | Mixed | |
Model: | 9 | |
Class: | 99 | |
Estimated Production Year: | 1905 | |
Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
Grade/Model Run: | 4 of 4 | |
Grade/Model Total Production: | 4,000 | |
Variant Est. Production: | 3,000 (18S-M9-21J-HNL-A5PTI-MIXED) | |
Size: | 18s | |
Jewels: | 21j | |
Jewel Material: | Ruby | |
Jewel Setting: | Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
Movement Configuration: | Hunting | |
Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
Movement Setting: | Lever | |
Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
Barrel: | Safety | |
Train: | Quick | |
Regulator: | Moseley | |
Hairspring: | Breguet | |
Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
Adjusted: | Yes | |
Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
Adjustment Tolerance: | [10] 5P +/- 10 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 3 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 0-2 s/24hrs. | |
Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
Railroad Grade Classification: | Class C | |
Wind Indicator: | No | |
U.S. Patents: | 77078, 596407, 596408 | |
Case: | Various | |
Run ID: | 4953.274G4.18S2358.189M4.H3315.L1640.21J127 | |
Data Research: |
1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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Database Version: | v52.511 | |
Advanced Metrics | ||
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 12.04 | |
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 4.60 | |
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.008% | |
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 19 (1.90%) | |
Research Note: #11587153: Verified as Marked "Veritas."
#11587159: Verified as Marked "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co." #11587333: Verified as Marked "Father Time." #11587394: Reported as Marked "Father Time." #11587504: Reported as Marked "Father Time." #11587724: Reported as Marked "B.W. Raymond." #11587937: Verified as Marked "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co." #11587979: Reported as Marked "B.W. Raymond." |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 274
Target Profile: 18S-M9-21J-HNL-A5PTI-MIXED
Elgin Grade 274 (All Variations): 4,000 ETP | |
18S: 4,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 274 |
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18S-M9: 4,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 274, Model 9 |
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18S-M9-21J: 4,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 274, Model 9, 21 Jewels |
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18S-M9-21J-HNL: 4,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 274, Model 9, 21 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Nickel |
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18S-M9-21J-HNL-A5PTI: 4,000 100.00% | |
18S-M9-21J-HNL-A5PTI-MIXED: 3,000 75.00% | Other: 1,000
Other Variants or Unclassified |
Population Registry for This Run
Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 19 watches in the population registry for this run with 2 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · February 19, 2022
Serial Number 11587504 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · December 7, 2021
Serial Number 11587724 was reported as inaccurate.
pedro765 41 · October 13, 2019
Serial Number 11587153 was reported as inaccurate.
CechBro 36 · August 19, 2018
Serial Number 11587394 was reported as inaccurate.
marked Father Time. Serial # 11587394
CechBro 36 · August 19, 2018
Serial Number 11587394 was reported as accurate.
334334 44 · November 8, 2017
Serial Number 11587979 was reported as accurate.
334334 44 · September 22, 2017
Serial Number 11587979 was reported as inaccurate.
Time. In the Elgin, database it shows it as a BW
RAYMOND -serial number #11587979 18s 21j -code
h3n91-class99-ad/5p
334334 44 · September 18, 2017
Serial Number 11587979 was reported as accurate.
shovelhead 66 · April 19, 2017
Serial Number 11587724 was reported as accurate.
Yellowtail420 Supporter 104 · February 27, 2017
Serial Number 11587937 was reported as inaccurate.
Father Time. Also it has diamond end stones.
DaveReid 52 · December 28, 2016
Serial Number 11587593 was reported as accurate.
LeroyC 392 · May 10, 2014
Serial Number 11587148 was reported as inaccurate.
'Veritas'
walter2 56 · May 5, 2014
Serial Number 11587552 was reported as accurate.
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