Elgin Pocket Watch: Serial Number 11587937 (Grade 274)

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Access Date: April 24, 2024

From the American Horology Archive:

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 274

Mixed Run: "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co." or "Father Time" or "Veritas" or "B.W. Raymond"

Manufacturer:	Elgin
Manufacturer Location:	Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number:	11587937
Grade:	274
Variation:	Mixed
Model:	9
Class:	99
Estimated Production Year:	1905
Run Quantity:	1,000
Grade/Model Run:	4 of 4
Grade/Model Total Production:	4,000
Variant Est. Production:	3,000 (18S-M9-21J-HNL-A5PTI-MIXED)
Size:	18s
Jewels:	21j
Jewel Material:	Ruby
Jewel Setting:	Gold Settings (Screw-Set)
Movement Configuration:	Hunting
Movement Finish:	Nickel
Movement Setting:	Lever
Plate:	3/4 Plate
Barrel:	Safety
Train:	Quick
Regulator:	Moseley
Hairspring:	Breguet
Standard Dial Type:	Double-Sunk
Adjusted:	Yes
Adjusted to Position:	Yes
Adjusted # of Positions:	5
Adjusted to Temperature:	Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism:	Yes
Adjustment Tolerance:	[10] 5P +/- 10 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 3 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 0-2 s/24hrs.
Railroad Grade:	Yes
Railroad Grade Classification:	Class C
Wind Indicator:	No
U.S. Patents:	77078, 596407, 596408
Data Research:	1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case:	Various
Run ID:	4952.274G4.18S2357.189M4.H3314.L1639.21J126
Database Version:	v52.245
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	12.04
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	4.60
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	0.008%
Registry Population:	19 (1.90%)
Research Note: #11587153: Verified as Marked "Veritas." #11587159: Verified as Marked "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co." #11587333: Verified as Marked "Father Time." #11587394: Reported as Marked "Father Time." #11587504: Reported as Marked "Father Time." #11587724: Reported as Marked "B.W. Raymond." #11587937: Verified as Marked "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co." #11587979: Reported as Marked "B.W. Raymond."

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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 274

Target Profile: 18S-M9-21J-HNL-A5PTI-MIXED

Elgin Grade 274 (All Variations): 4,000 ETP
18S: 4,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 274
18S-M9: 4,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 274, Model 9
18S-M9-21J: 4,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 274, Model 9, 21 Jewels
18S-M9-21J-HNL: 4,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 274, Model 9, 21 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Nickel
18S-M9-21J-HNL-A5PTI: 4,000 100.00%
18S-M9-21J-HNL-A5PTI-MIXED: 3,000 75.00%

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Anonymous · February 19, 2022

Serial Number 11587504 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 11587504 marked "father time".

Curator Response: Thanks for the report. This information has been noted in the research notes for this run.

Anonymous · December 7, 2021

Serial Number 11587724 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Marked B.W.Raymond

Curator Response: Thanks for the report. This information has been noted in the research notes for this run.

Anonymous · December 11, 2020

Serial Number 11587204 was reported as accurate.

pedro765 41 · October 13, 2019

Serial Number 11587153 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Marked Veritas

Curator Response: Verified. [eBay #133202097899]

Anonymous · July 25, 2019

Serial Number 11587090 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 13, 2018

Serial Number 11587481 was reported as accurate.

CechBro Supporter 35 · August 19, 2018

Serial Number 11587394 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Correction moment appears all other in photo's but
marked Father Time. Serial # 11587394

CechBro Supporter 35 · August 19, 2018

Serial Number 11587394 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 4, 2018

Serial Number 11587982 was reported as accurate.

334334 44 · November 8, 2017

Serial Number 11587979 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 24, 2017

Serial Number 11587979 was reported as accurate.

334334 44 · September 22, 2017

Serial Number 11587979 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This movement is marked BW RAYMOND, not Father
Time. In the Elgin, database it shows it as a BW
RAYMOND -serial number #11587979 18s 21j -code
h3n91-class99-ad/5p