Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 389 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 389

Father Time

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 16135721
Grade: 389
Variation: Father Time
Model: 8
Generation: Third
Class: 134
Estimated Production Year: 1912
Run Quantity: 1,000
Grade/Model Run: 2 of 3
Grade/Model Total Production: 3,000
Grade/Model Unrealized Production: 1,000
Size: 18s
Jewels: 21j
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Barrel: Going
Train: Quick
Regulator: Traveling Nut (spring)
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Position: Yes
Adjusted # of Positions: 5
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes
Railroad Grade: Yes
U.S. Patents: 77078, 596407, 596408
Data Research: 1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Run ID: 7670.389G2.18S3132.188M125.O2789.L2072.21J205
Database Version: v52.219
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
8.98
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
3.43
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.006%
Registry Population: 14 (1.40%)
Research Note: Observations in this run indicate some were produced with gilded winding wheels, click, regulator, and screws. (#16135710, #16135512, and #16135362 Verified).

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · June 4, 2023

Serial Number 16135811 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 5, 2022

Serial Number 16135580 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 26, 2021

Serial Number 16135721 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 2, 2020

Serial Number 16135486 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 17, 2018

Serial Number 16135589 was reported as accurate.

von1943 Supporter 371 · February 24, 2017

Serial Number 16135270 was reported as accurate.

von1943 Supporter 371 · February 24, 2017

Serial Number 16135270 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 31, 2017

Serial Number 16135262 was reported as accurate.

Chronified Supporter 212 · October 21, 2016

Serial Number 16135851 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 14, 2016

Serial Number 16135313 was reported as accurate.

rfregoso 55 · August 28, 2016

Serial Number 16135409 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 13, 2016

Serial Number 16135065 was reported as accurate.

pedro765 41 · May 16, 2016

Serial Number 16135721 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 22, 2016

Serial Number 16135066 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 22, 2016

Serial Number 16135066 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 4, 2015

Serial Number 16135065 was reported as accurate.

bowfinn 52 · June 10, 2014

Serial Number 16135448 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 8, 2013

Serial Number 16135965 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 18, 2013

Serial Number 16135199 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Father Time

Anonymous · February 3, 2013

Serial Number 16135900 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · January 28, 2013

Serial Number 16135900 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement marked Father Time not B.W.Raymond

Anonymous · August 22, 2012

Serial Number 16135669 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement marked Father Time not B.W.Raymond

Anonymous · August 4, 2012

Serial Number 16135485 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: It says Father Time not BW Raymond *****@gmail.com
Elgin Grade 389 Pocket Watch