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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 391 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 391 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 391

Mixed Run: "Father Time" or "B.W. Raymond"

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 16214793 Question Mark
Grade: 391 Question Mark
Variation: Members Only Data Question Mark
Model: 15 Question Mark
Class: 98 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: Members Only Data Question Mark
Run Quantity: Members Only Data Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: Members Only Data Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: Members Only Data Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: Members Only Data Question Mark
Size: 16s Question Mark
Jewels: 21j Question Mark
Jewel Material: Members Only Data Question Mark
Jewel Setting: Members Only Data Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Wind Mechanism: Pendant Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Double Roller: Yes Question Mark
Barrel: Safety Question Mark
Train: Members Only Data Question Mark
Regulator: Members Only Data Question Mark
Hairspring: Members Only Data Question Mark
Pallet Jewel Material: Sapphire Question Mark
Standard Dial Type: Members Only Data Question Mark
Adjusted: Members Only Data Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Members Only Data Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: Members Only Data Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Members Only Data Question Mark
Adjusted to Isochronism: Members Only Data Question Mark
Railroad Grade: Members Only Data Question Mark
Railroad Grade Classification: Members Only Data Question Mark
Wind Indicator Available: Members Only Data Question Mark
Wind Indicator Present: Members Only Data Question Mark
Wind Indicator: Members Only Data Question Mark
U.S. Patents: Members Only Data Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 7730.391G5.16S1830.1615M43.O2819.L2081.21J210 Question Mark
Data Research: 1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.642 Question Mark
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Registry Population:
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10 (1.00%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 3.92% Analyzing 80 Sales Question Mark
Research Note: #16214599: Reported as Marked "Father Time."
23 Additional Member-Only Data Points Available

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Variation, Estimated Production Year, Run Quantity, Grade/Model Run, Grade/Model Total Production, Variant Est. Production, Jewel Material, Jewel Setting, Train, Regulator Type, Hairspring, Standard Dial Type, Adjustments, Adjusted to Position, Positional Adjustments, Temperature Adjustments, Isochronism Adjustments, Railroad Grade Designation, Railroad Grade Classification, Wind Indicator Available, Wind Indicator Present, Wind Indicator, U.S. Patents

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Joelfitz281 87 · April 29, 2025

Serial Number 16214793 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 28, 2022

Serial Number 16214454 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 13, 2022

Serial Number 16214766 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 10, 2021

Serial Number 16214599 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement is marked “Father Time”. No wind
indicator present.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. This information has been noted in the research notes for this run.

HorologyLLC 11 · April 17, 2020

Serial Number 16214322 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 7, 2017

Serial Number 16214799 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 7, 2017

Serial Number 16214436 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Marked BW Raymond.

Anonymous · July 26, 2016

Serial Number 16214505 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement marked B.W. Raymond.

Anonymous · July 23, 2016

Serial Number 16214505 was reported as accurate.

daddo46 992 · December 23, 2015

Serial Number 16214067 was reported as accurate.

daddo46 992 · December 23, 2015

Serial Number 16214067 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 20, 2014

Serial Number 16214284 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 25, 2014

Serial Number 16214067 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: marked "Father Time"

Anonymous · August 23, 2013

Serial Number 16214836 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 30, 2012

Serial Number 16214360 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 15, 2012

Serial Number 16214977 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: movement marked "Father Time"
Elgin Grade 391 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 391 Pocket Watch