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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 391 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 391 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 391

Mixed: "Father Time" or "B.W. Raymond"

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 16552493
Grade: 391
Variation: Mixed
Model: 15
Class: 98
Estimated Production Year: 1912
Run Quantity: 1,000
Grade/Model Run: 7 of 9
Grade/Model Total Production: 9,000
Variant Est. Production: 4,000 (16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED)
Size: 16s
Jewels: 21j
Jewel Material: Ruby & Sapphire
Jewel Setting: Gold Settings (Screw-Set)
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Double Roller: Yes
Barrel: Safety
Train: Quick
Train Material: Gold
Regulator: Traveling Nut (spring)
Hairspring: Breguet
Pallet Jewel Material: Sapphire
Standard Dial Type: Double-Sunk
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Position: Yes
Adjusted # of Positions: 5
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes
Railroad Grade: Yes
Railroad Grade Classification: Class A
Wind Indicator Available: Yes
Wind Indicator Present: Mixed
U.S. Patents: 77078, 596407, 596408
Data Research: 1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Run ID: 7957.391G7.16S1885.1615M48.O2920.L2094.21J216
Database Version: v52.270
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
27.09
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
10.41
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.018%
Registry Population: 15 (1.50%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 4.44% Analyzing 78 Sales

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · January 14, 2024

Serial Number 16552448 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 23, 2021

Serial Number 16552281 was reported as accurate.

Bigbobhoss Supporter 45 · November 10, 2019

Serial Number 16552382 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 29, 2019

Serial Number 16552096 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 9, 2018

Serial Number 16552879 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 26, 2017

Serial Number 16552104 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 28, 2016

Serial Number 16552947 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 21, 2016

Serial Number 16552948 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 12, 2016

Serial Number 16552210 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 23, 2015

Serial Number 16552349 was reported as accurate.

Bluejay 179 · October 26, 2015

Serial Number 16552340 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 2, 2014

Serial Number 16552650 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 2, 2014

Serial Number 16552650 was reported as accurate.

LeroyC 392 · July 2, 2014

Serial Number 16552493 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This SN marked B.W. Raymond and has no wind
indicator

Anonymous · May 18, 2013

Serial Number 16552681 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: everything correct you have listed except the most
important one... This has a wind indicator, solid
gold train and raised GJS.

Anonymous · May 18, 2013

Serial Number 16552681 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · May 18, 2013

Serial Number 16552681 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 27, 2012

Serial Number 16552539 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Some were BW Raymond and some were Father Time as
is this one....
Elgin Grade 391 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 391 Pocket Watch