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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 391 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 391 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 391

"Father Time" or "B.W. Raymond"

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 17269197
Grade: 391
Variation: Mixed
Model: 15
Class: 98
Estimated Production Year: 1913
Run Quantity: 1,000
Grade/Model Run: 9 of 9
Grade/Model Total Production: 9,000
Variant Est. Production: 4,000 (16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED)
Size: 16s
Jewels: 21j
Jewel Material: Ruby & Sapphire
Jewel Setting: Gold Settings (Screw-Set)
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Double Roller: Yes
Barrel: Safety
Train: Quick
Regulator: Traveling Nut (spring)
Hairspring: Breguet
Pallet Jewel Material: Sapphire
Standard Dial Type: Double-Sunk
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Position: Yes
Adjusted # of Positions: 5
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes
Railroad Grade: Yes
Railroad Grade Classification: Class A
Wind Indicator Available: Yes
Wind Indicator Present: Mixed
U.S. Patents: 77078, 596407, 596408
Data Research: 1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Run ID: 8452.391G9.16S2000.1615M59.O3170.L2118.21J224
Database Version: v52.245
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
27.09
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
10.41
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.018%
Registry Population: 11 (1.10%)

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · February 14, 2022

Serial Number 17269938 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 14, 2020

Serial Number 17269009 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 30, 2019

Serial Number 17269181 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 25, 2019

Serial Number 17269980 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 6, 2019

Serial Number 17269664 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 15, 2019

Serial Number 17269283 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 18, 2018

Serial Number 17269037 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 17, 2018

Serial Number 17269037 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 16, 2017

Serial Number 17269856 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 16, 2017

Serial Number 17269624 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Hi, this watch is a B.W. Raymond and dose not have
a wind indicator.

Anonymous · July 13, 2016

Serial Number 17269138 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This watch is marked Father Time and has a up/down
indicator

Anonymous · April 3, 2013

Serial Number 17269409 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 21, 2012

Serial Number 17269900 was reported as accurate.

Elgin Grade 391 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 391 Pocket Watch