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Access Date: December 14, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 65 Pocket Watch
Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 65

Mixed Run: 6s and 8s Movements

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 1797449 Question Mark
Grade: 65 Question Mark
Model: 1 Question Mark
Class: 51 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1885 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 5,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 12 of 12 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 29,000 Question Mark
Size: 8s Question Mark
Jewels: 13j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Hunting Question Mark
Movement Finish: Gilt Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Plain Question Mark
Adjusted: No Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 807.65G12.8S56.81M56.H749.L291.13J73 Question Mark
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
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Database Version: v52.508 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 87.31 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 33.68 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 0.057% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only		22 (0.44%) Question Mark
Research Note: This run occurs during the size transition from 8s to 6s. Observations have been compiled within this run of both 8-Size and 6-Size movements.
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 65

Target Profile: 8S-M1-13J-HGL-U

Elgin Grade 65 (All Variations): 42,000 ETP
8S: 29,000 69.05%
8s, Grade 65		 Other: 13,000
Other Sizes or Unclassified
8S-M1: 29,000 69.05%
8s, Grade 65, Model 1
8S-M1-13J: 29,000 69.05%
8s, Grade 65, Model 1, 13 Jewels
8S-M1-13J-HGL: 29,000 69.05%
8s, Grade 65, Model 1, 13 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Gilt
8S-M1-13J-HGL-U: 29,000 69.05%

Population Registry for This Run

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There are 22 watches in the population registry for this run with 1 image.
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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 5272 · July 26, 2023

Serial Number 1799236 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 6s movement
Curator Response: Thanks for the confirmation!

Rickhufnagel7 Top Contributor Elgin Expert Hampden Expert Supporter 630 · January 6, 2022

Serial Number 1795551 was reported as accurate.

Rcardkidz 4090 · January 20, 2021

Serial Number 1799175 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 10, 2020

Serial Number 1797350 was reported as accurate.

Sirfub 24 · December 12, 2018

Serial Number 1797709 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 7 Jewels, not 13 - image:
https://i.imgur.com/GywWI29.jpg
Curator Response: The image shows the serial number on the movement is 5235781. The correct lookup page is: https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/elgin/5235781

dennyflynn 3 · September 16, 2017

Serial Number 1796425 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8

victorkienas 7 · January 17, 2017

Serial Number 1798615 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: this is a size 6,not an 8..

timerestored 278 · October 12, 2015

Serial Number 1799015 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8

ken506marlin 85 · January 16, 2015

Serial Number 1798817 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8

Anonymous · December 31, 2013

Serial Number 1798802 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8

Anonymous · February 27, 2013

Serial Number 1799002 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8

Anonymous · July 28, 2012

Serial Number 1799951 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8
Elgin Grade 65 Pocket Watch