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Access Date: November 18, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 581 Pocket Watch
Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 581

B.W. Raymond

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 40470123 Question Mark
Grade: 581 Question Mark
Variation: B.W. Raymond Question Mark
Model: 15 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1942 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 1,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 4 of 9 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 20,800 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 14,000 (16S-M15-22J-OFP) Question Mark
Size: 16s Question Mark
Jewels: 22j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Gold Flashed Question Mark
Movement Setting: Pendant Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Ball Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 5 Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078, 596407, 596408 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 14930.581G4.16S3772.1615M342.O6857.P11791.22J3 Question Mark
Data Research: 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
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Database Version: v52.445 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 62.62 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 24.14 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 0.041% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only		12 (1.20%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 2.26% Analyzing 79 Sales Question Mark
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 581

Target Profile: 16S-M15-22J-OFP-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND

Elgin Grade 581 (All Variations): 20,800 ETP
16S: 20,800 100.00%
16s, Grade 581
16S-M15: 20,800 100.00%
16s, Grade 581, Model 15
16S-M15-22J: 18,500 88.94%
16s, Grade 581, Model 15, 22 Jewels		 Other: 2,300
Other Jewels or Unclassified
16S-M15-22J-OFP: 14,000 67.31%
16s, Grade 581, Model 15, 22 Jewels, Openface/Pendant/Gold Flashed 		Other: 4,500
Other Configs or Unclassified
16S-M15-22J-OFP-A5PTI: 14,000 67.31%
16S-M15-22J-OFP-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND: 14,000 67.31%

Population Registry for This Run

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 307 · May 18, 2024

Serial Number 40470342 was reported as accurate.

ebsrods Supporter 130 · September 3, 2021

Serial Number 40470765 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement is stamped 21 jewel not 22 jewel ,it is
gold flashed. also marked: U.S. ARMY A.C. above
adjusted.
Curator Response: There is an additional jewel for the arbor of the sweep-second wheel. The core movement is 21-Jewels + the sweep second jewel = 22 Jewels.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface

CLOCKWORKBRIAN72 50 · February 4, 2020

Serial Number 40470006 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface

Anonymous · April 4, 2018

Serial Number 40470735 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface

Anonymous · November 20, 2017

Serial Number 40470536 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface

josephel 2 · August 22, 2017

Serial Number 40470041 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface

Anonymous · November 28, 2016

Serial Number 40470247 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface

RapidoEd 1 · July 13, 2016

Serial Number 40470123 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface

Anonymous · July 9, 2016

Serial Number 40470609 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface

Anonymous · July 7, 2016

Serial Number 40470123 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface

Anonymous · June 27, 2016

Serial Number 40470690 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement is gold flashed BW Raymond, case is
Illinois case nickel.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 21j to 22j
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Gold Flashed

ua1okx 1 · September 24, 2014

Serial Number 40470887 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 21j to 22j
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Gold Flashed

Norske 10 · February 14, 2014

Serial Number 40470439 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 21j to 22j
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Gold Flashed

Anonymous · September 8, 2013

Serial Number 40470863 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This item has 22 jewels due to the sweep seconds
hand. There is also a sweep wheel and cock not
shown in the diagram. Movement marked: U.S. ARMY
A.C.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 21j to 22j
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Gold Flashed

Anonymous · July 29, 2012

Serial Number 40470172 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: the observations are correct, however the barrel
bridege is stamped US Army A C (i would think air
corp) and the movement is house in a nickel case
with the following incribe:TYPE-A13

SPEC. NO AN-GG-W-108

SER. NO. AC42-4938

MFRS PART NO 1786

ORD. NO. W535AC-2807

ELGIN
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 21j to 22j
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Gold Flashed

Anonymous · July 27, 2012

Serial Number 40470172 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 21j to 22j
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Gold Flashed
Elgin Grade 581 Pocket Watch