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Access Date: November 21, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 15
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 418460 | |
| Grade: | 15 | |
| Model: | 1 | |
| Class: | 15 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1875 | |
| Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 2 of 5 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 4,100 | |
| Size: | 17s | |
| Jewels: | 11j | |
| Jewel Setting: | Friction | |
| Movement Configuration: | Adaptable | |
| Movement Finish: | Gilt | |
| Movement Setting: | Key | |
| Plate: | Full Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Slow | |
| Regulator: | Plain | |
| Adjusted: | No | |
| Railroad Grade: | No | |
| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 410.15G2.17S5.171M5.H408.K360.11J190 | |
| Data Research: |
1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.450 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 12.34 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 4.71 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.008% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 8 (0.80%) | |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 15
Target Profile: 17S-M1-11J-HGK-U
| Elgin Grade 15 (All Variations): 4,100 ETP |
| 17S: 4,100 100.00% 17s, Grade 15 |
| 17S-M1: 4,100 100.00% 17s, Grade 15, Model 1 |
| 17S-M1-11J: 4,100 100.00% 17s, Grade 15, Model 1, 11 Jewels |
| 17S-M1-11J-HGK: 4,100 100.00% 17s, Grade 15, Model 1, 11 Jewels, Adaptable/Key/Gilt |
| 17S-M1-11J-HGK-U: 4,100 100.00% |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 8 watches in the population registry for this run with 1 image.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · December 6, 2018
Serial Number 418073 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Thanks for the update re- English market.
Good site, very useful. Cheere, Allan.
Good site, very useful. Cheere, Allan.
Anonymous · December 6, 2018
Serial Number 418075 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Sorry but still unable to find upload link on
your site. It is listed on eBay just now item
number 302982491075. Please feel free to copy
pictures if you wish.
your site. It is listed on eBay just now item
number 302982491075. Please feel free to copy
pictures if you wish.
Curator Response: Thanks for the followup. I was able to verify your watch is a Keywind/Keyset Model 1 featuring the "wavy" plate profile, made specifically for the English market. [eBay #302982491075]
Anonymous · December 6, 2018
Serial Number 418075 was reported as accurate.
Ashraf 149 · December 5, 2018
Serial Number 418075 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 5, 2018
Serial Number 418075 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: My model is key wind and set from the rear. I can
send you a picture but unable to find a link on
your page to do so.
send you a picture but unable to find a link on
your page to do so.
Curator Response: Thanks for the followup! A Key-Wind/Key-Set 17-Size movement would be considered a Model 1 despite the profile of the top plate. Photos of the watch would be a great benefit for other researchers on the site, and I would be happy to take a closer look. This page contains instructions on how to upload images: https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/blog/2017/08/08/how-can-i-upload-photos-of-my-watch-to-the-pocket-watch-database/
Anonymous · December 1, 2018
Serial Number 418075 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Shugart's book list the one I have as a model 2
according to their drawing. This serial number in
your list is entirely different and listed as a
model 1.
according to their drawing. This serial number in
your list is entirely different and listed as a
model 1.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. Elgin material catalogs list the Grade 15 as a Model 1, which is illustrated within the lookup information. Though, the plate design may be slightly different. The two models are extremely similar, and the distinction provided in original source material is the Model 2 is lever-set while the Model 1 is key-set. Please let us know if your example is lever-set. Also, if possible, upload images of your watch for further evaluation. It would be excellent to have a Grade 15 example displayed on the database.
Anonymous · October 31, 2015
Serial Number 418353 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 28, 2015
Serial Number 418668 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 28, 2015
Serial Number 418668 was reported as accurate.
