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Access Date: April 19, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 123 Pocket Watch
Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 123

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 4885922
Grade: 123
Model: 5
Class: 9
Estimated Production Year: 1893
Run Quantity: 2,000
Grade/Model Run: 5 of 7
Grade/Model Total Production: 13,000
Variant Est. Production: 9,000 (18S-M5-17J)
Size: 18s
Jewels: 17j
Jewel Setting: Screw-Set
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Gilt
Movement Setting: Pendant
Plate: Full Plate
Barrel: Going
Train: Quick
Regulator: Moseley
Hairspring: Breguet
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Temperature: No
Railroad Grade: No
U.S. Patents: 77078, 347272, 345619
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Run ID: 1909.123G5.18S1117.185M248.O316.P438.17J18
Database Version: v52.235
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 39.14
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 15.07
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 0.026%
Registry Population: 19 (0.95%)
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 123

Target Profile: 18S-M5-17J-OGP-A

Elgin Grade 123 (All Variations): 13,000 ETP
18S: 13,000 100.00%
18s, Grade 123
18S-M5: 13,000 100.00%
18s, Grade 123, Model 5
18S-M5-17J: 9,000 69.23%
18s, Grade 123, Model 5, 17 Jewels		 Other: 4,000
Other Jewels or Unclassified
18S-M5-17J-OGP: 9,000 69.23%
18s, Grade 123, Model 5, 17 Jewels, Openface/Pendant/Gilt
18S-M5-17J-OGP-A: 9,000 69.23%

Population Registry for This Run

Image Serial Number Run Position Primary Identification Method Discovery Date
There are 19 watches in the population registry for this run with 2 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Anonymous · April 18, 2023

Serial Number 4885229 was reported as accurate.

2251lyle 78 · September 11, 2022

Serial Number 4884504 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 31, 2022

Serial Number 4885262 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 9, 2022

Serial Number 4885484 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 21, 2022

Serial Number 4885262 was reported as accurate.

nicnic Supporter 385 · May 16, 2022

Serial Number 4884134 was reported as accurate.

Pinko2 69 · December 27, 2021

Serial Number 4884504 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 25, 2021

Serial Number 4885450 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 25, 2021

Serial Number 4885450 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 25, 2021

Serial Number 4885450 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 8, 2021

Serial Number 4885212 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 7, 2020

Serial Number 4884966 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 17, 2020

Serial Number 4884530 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 31, 2019

Serial Number 4885663 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 18, 2017

Serial Number 4884343 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 26, 2015

Serial Number 4885895 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: According to Elgin Watch Company Grade and Serial
Numbers by Roy Ehrhardt, the watch is railroad
grade.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. Since the Grade 123 was not adjusted to positions, it would not have qualified on the majority of American railroads at the time of production.

Anonymous · December 24, 2015

Serial Number 4885411 was reported as accurate.

cmdraven 3990 · March 18, 2014

Serial Number 4885604 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 28, 2013

Serial Number 4885611 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: MY MOVEMENT SERIAL NR: 4885611 IS CLEARLY STAMPED
17 JEWEL, NOT 15
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j

Anonymous · June 23, 2013

Serial Number 4884867 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Mine is 17 , this info is reading 15j
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j

Anonymous · May 1, 2012

Serial Number 4884502 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: I verified the SZ# and the movement is brass and
marked 17j Adjusted, also the case is nickle and
the movement is a swing out.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j

Anonymous · April 3, 2012

Serial Number 4884212 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: its marked 17j
was told production year 1891 and it was RR
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j
Elgin Grade 123 Pocket Watch
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