Pocket Watch Database
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Access Date: November 30, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 164
Manufacturer: | Elgin | |
Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
Movement Serial Number: | 6654687 | |
Grade: | 164 | |
Variation: | Father Time | |
Model: | 2 | |
Class: | 1 | |
Estimated Production Year: | 1897 | |
Run Quantity: | 400 | |
Grade/Model Run: | 5 of 7 | |
Grade/Model Total Production: | 6,000 | |
Variant Est. Production: | 1,000 (18S-M2-21J) | |
Size: | 18s | |
Jewels: | 21j | |
Jewel Material: | Ruby | |
Jewel Setting: | Screw-Set | |
Movement Configuration: | Hunting | |
Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
Movement Setting: | Lever | |
Plate: | Full Plate | |
Barrel: | Going | |
Train: | Quick | |
Regulator: | Moseley | |
Hairspring: | Breguet | |
Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
Adjusted: | Yes | |
Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
Railroad Grade Classification: | Class C | |
U.S. Patents: | 77078 | |
Case: | Various | |
Run ID: | 2648.164G5.18S1468.182M177.H1981.L1154.21J15 | |
Data Research: |
1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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Database Version: | v52.470 | |
Advanced Metrics | ||
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 18.06 | |
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 6.92 | |
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.012% | |
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 6 (1.50%) | |
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | 0.39% Analyzing 54 Sales | |
Research Note: This run was originally designated as Grade 164 with 17 Jewels marked "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co." However, production was upgraded to 21-Jewel movements marked "Father Time" starting at #6654601. While this run appears combined in factory serial lists, it has been split accordingly for the purposes of the database.
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 164
Target Profile: 18S-M2-21J-HNL-APT-FATHER TIME
Elgin Grade 164 (All Variations): 6,000 ETP | |
18S: 6,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 164 |
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18S-M2: 6,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 164, Model 2 |
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18S-M2-21J: 1,000 16.67% 18s, Grade 164, Model 2, 21 Jewels |
Other: 5,000
Other Jewels or Unclassified |
18S-M2-21J-HNL: 1,000 16.67% 18s, Grade 164, Model 2, 21 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Nickel |
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18S-M2-21J-HNL-APT: 1,000 16.67% | |
18S-M2-21J-HNL-APT-FATHER TIME: 1,000 16.67% |
Population Registry for This Run
Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 6 watches in the population registry for this run with 1 image.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Dave895 Supporter 101 · June 13, 2024
Serial Number 6654679 was reported as inaccurate.
Jaharvey38 Supporter 16 · December 30, 2023
Serial Number 6654723 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · March 17, 2023
Serial Number 6654935 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 21, 2021
Serial Number 6654746 was reported as accurate.
JPFour 8 · August 15, 2021
Serial Number 6654746 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · February 7, 2019
Serial Number 6654962 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 17, 2015
Serial Number 6654825 was reported as inaccurate.
grade 164 to grade 995.
jmclaw 1 · February 16, 2014
Serial Number 6654618 was reported as accurate.
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