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Access Date: November 21, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 81
"G.M. Wheeler" or "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co."
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 852301 | |
| Grade: | 81 | |
| Variation: | Mixed | |
| Model: | 1 | |
| Class: | 4 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1881 | |
| Run Quantity: | 5,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 4 of 13 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 53,000 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 25,000 (18S-M1-13J-HGK-U-MIXED) | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 13j | |
| Movement Configuration: | Adaptable | |
| Movement Finish: | Gilt | |
| Movement Setting: | Key | |
| Plate: | Full Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Adjusted: | No | |
| Railroad Grade: | No | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078 | |
| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 604.81G4.18S449.181M370.H588.K466.13J34 | |
| Data Research: |
1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.450 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 159.57 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 61.61 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.105% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 42 (0.84%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | 3.08% Analyzing 242 Sales | |
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Research Note: #852252 Verified as Marked G.M. Wheeler with 13 Jewels [eBay #173154696070]. #851031: Verified as Marked "Elgin Nat'l. Watch Co." with 13 Jewels [eBay #333630154142].
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 81
Target Profile: 18S-M1-13J-HGK-U-MIXED
| Elgin Grade 81 (All Variations): 53,000 ETP | ||
| 18S: 53,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 81 |
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| 18S-M1: 53,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 81, Model 1 |
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| 18S-M1-13J: 41,000 77.36% 18s, Grade 81, Model 1, 13 Jewels |
Other: 12,000
Other Jewels or Unclassified |
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| 18S-M1-13J-HGK: 41,000 77.36% 18s, Grade 81, Model 1, 13 Jewels, Adaptable/Key/Gilt |
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| 18S-M1-13J-HGK-U: 41,000 77.36% | ||
| 18S-M1-13J-HGK-U-MIXED: 25,000 47.17% | Other: 16,000
Other Variants or Unclassified |
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Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 42 watches in the population registry for this run with 3 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · April 14, 2023
Serial Number 852809 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 31, 2023
Serial Number 852809 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 2, 2022
Serial Number 851562 was reported as accurate.
LostDutchman Supporter 52 · December 29, 2021
Serial Number 854052 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 26, 2021
Serial Number 854252 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 26, 2021
Serial Number 852385 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 26, 2021
Serial Number 852385 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 18, 2021
Serial Number 852222 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 13, 2021
Serial Number 852222 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 5, 2021
Serial Number 852222 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 3, 2021
Serial Number 853103 was reported as accurate.
rtwatches 943 · November 30, 2020
Serial Number 850895 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · October 30, 2020
Serial Number 852826 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 16, 2018
Serial Number 852754 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 18, 2018
Serial Number 853112 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 11, 2017
Serial Number 853430 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · November 27, 2017
Serial Number 854798 was reported as accurate.
sanjosetom 313 · May 25, 2017
Serial Number 852488 was reported as accurate.
Lebaron49 12 · January 21, 2017
Serial Number 851516 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 29, 2016
Serial Number 851411 was reported as accurate.
dscottgoodrick 142 · May 9, 2016
Serial Number 854951 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 10, 2014
Serial Number 852488 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 12, 2014
Serial Number 854837 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 15, 2013
Serial Number 851062 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 6, 2013
Serial Number 851085 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 25, 2013
Serial Number 852451 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 31, 2013
Serial Number 850410 was reported as accurate.
CORBETT 3 · July 21, 2013
Serial Number 854110 was reported as inaccurate.
silver or pewter case.
Anonymous · April 1, 2013
Serial Number 853301 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 4, 2013
Serial Number 853437 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 24, 2012
Serial Number 853267 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 30, 2012
Serial Number 852471 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 20, 2012
Serial Number 853437 was reported as inaccurate.
and key set and the key hole in the case lines up
with the key wind mechanism on the movement and
the 12 is at the winding stem.
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