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Access Date: February 19, 2025
From the American Horology Archive:


Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 239
Veritas
Manufacturer: | Elgin | ![]() |
Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | ![]() |
Movement Serial Number: | 8597309 | ![]() |
Grade: | 239 | ![]() |
Variation: | Veritas | ![]() |
Model: | 8 | ![]() |
Generation: | First | ![]() |
Class: | 90 | ![]() |
Estimated Production Year: | 1901 | ![]() |
Run Quantity: | 1,000 | ![]() |
Grade/Model Run: | 2 of 17 | ![]() |
Grade/Model Total Production: | 18,800 | ![]() |
Variant Est. Production: | 16,500 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-VERITAS) | ![]() |
Grade/Model Unrealized Production: | 1,200 | ![]() |
Size: | 18s | ![]() |
Jewels: | 21j | ![]() |
Jewel Material: | Ruby | ![]() |
Jewel Setting: | Raised Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | ![]() |
Movement Configuration: | Openface | ![]() |
Movement Finish: | Nickel | ![]() |
Movement Inlay Color: | Gilt or Black | ![]() |
Movement Setting: | Lever | ![]() |
Plate: | 3/4 Plate | ![]() |
Barrel: | Safety | ![]() |
Balance Jewel Material: | Diamond | ![]() |
Train: | Quick | ![]() |
Train Material: | Gold | ![]() |
Center Wheel Material: | Gold | ![]() |
Regulator: | Traveling Nut (spring) | ![]() |
Hairspring: | Breguet | ![]() |
Escapement Type: | Straight-line | ![]() |
Pallet Jewel Material: | Sapphire | ![]() |
Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | ![]() |
Adjusted: | Yes | ![]() |
Adjusted to Position: | Yes | ![]() |
Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | ![]() |
Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | ![]() |
Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | ![]() |
Railroad Grade: | Yes | ![]() |
Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | ![]() |
Wind Indicator: | No | ![]() |
U.S. Patents: | 596407, 77078, 596408 | ![]() |
Movement Markings: | Veritas Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. 21 Jewels Safety Barrel Adjusted [Some Movements Marked "Adjusted 5 Positions"] |
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Case: | Various | ![]() |
Run ID: | 3478.239G2.18S1848.188M4.O916.L1360.21J74 | ![]() |
Data Research: |
1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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Database Version: | v52.612 | ![]() |
Advanced Metrics | ||
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 56.60 | ![]() |
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 21.82 | ![]() |
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.037% | ![]() |
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 14 (1.40%) | ![]() |
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | 2.07% Analyzing 219 Sales | ![]() |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 239
Target Profile: 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-VERITAS
Elgin Grade 239 (All Variations): 18,800 ETP | |
18S: 18,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 239 |
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18S-M8: 18,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 239, Model 8 |
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18S-M8-21J: 18,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 239, Model 8, 21 Jewels |
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18S-M8-21J-ONL: 18,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 239, Model 8, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 18,800 100.00% | |
18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-VERITAS: 16,500 87.77% | Other: 2,300
Other Variants or Unclassified |
NOTE: 20,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 1,200 Never Manufactured |
Population Registry for This Run
Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 14 watches in the population registry for this run with 1 image.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · November 25, 2019
Serial Number 8597452 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · December 17, 2018
Serial Number 8597207 was reported as accurate.


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