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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 252 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 252 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 252

Father Time

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 8831383 Question Mark
Grade: 252 Question Mark
Variation: Father Time Question Mark
Model: 7 Question Mark
Class: 65 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1900 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 3,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 4 of 16 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 19,000 Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 21j Question Mark
Jewel Material: Ruby Question Mark
Jewel Setting: Gold Settings (Screw-Set) Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Signing Style: Mixed Question Mark
Movement Inlay Color: Black Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: Full Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Moseley Question Mark
Hairspring: Breguet Question Mark
Escapement Type: Straight-line Question Mark
Standard Dial Type: Double-Sunk Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade Classification: Class A Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 596407, 77078, 347272 Question Mark
Movement Markings: Father Time
21 Jewels
Elgin, Ill. U.S.A.
Adjusted.
Safety Pinion.
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 3584.252G4.18S1892.187M72.O958.L1386.21J79 Question Mark
Data Research: 1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.473 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
57.20 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
22.05 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.038% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
56 (1.87%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -2.81% Analyzing 164 Sales Question Mark

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · August 23, 2024

Serial Number 8831698 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 3, 2024

Serial Number 8832150 was reported as accurate.

cjbrem Supporter 926 · December 4, 2023

Serial Number 8832567 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 27, 2023

Serial Number 8833852 was reported as accurate.

TerryfromCanada Supporter 486 · September 17, 2023

Serial Number 8831341 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 10, 2023

Serial Number 8832050 was reported as accurate.

cmdraven 4083 · March 29, 2022

Serial Number 8833051 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 27, 2022

Serial Number 8833973 was reported as accurate.

brianwatches 53 · March 15, 2022

Serial Number 8832388 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 23, 2021

Serial Number 8833155 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Everything is correct, I just wanted to change the
“Movement Signing Style” from mixed to what I
believe is “Old English”. It’s the same
style on the example shown above. Thank you for
your hard work!

wmike565 Supporter 115 · January 28, 2021

Serial Number 8831383 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 30, 2020

Serial Number 8831155 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 11, 2020

Serial Number 8832150 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 29, 2020

Serial Number 8831762 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 5, 2020

Serial Number 8831762 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 5, 2020

Serial Number 8831762 was reported as accurate.

Owassa3 1 · March 20, 2019

Serial Number 8833304 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 20, 2019

Serial Number 8833304 was reported as accurate.

oilseed Supporter 471 · March 11, 2018

Serial Number 8831151 was reported as accurate.

jacobwalls07 143 · January 21, 2018

Serial Number 8833916 was reported as accurate.

Gimparoo Supporter 703 · January 20, 2018

Serial Number 8832982 was reported as accurate.

Gimparoo Supporter 703 · October 25, 2017

Serial Number 8832766 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 17, 2017

Serial Number 8833012 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 6, 2017

Serial Number 8833633 was reported as accurate.

PADINTEXAS 8 · August 4, 2017

Serial Number 8832367 was reported as accurate.

jrmartin1964 2 · July 2, 2017

Serial Number 8831262 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 10, 2016

Serial Number 8833695 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 22, 2016

Serial Number 8833758 was reported as accurate.

WilliamGene 69 · June 28, 2016

Serial Number 8833686 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 8, 2016

Serial Number 8833726 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 23, 2016

Serial Number 8831653 was reported as accurate.

Cryptid 1 · October 13, 2015

Serial Number 8832494 was reported as accurate.

Cryptid 1 · October 9, 2015

Serial Number 8832494 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 24, 2015

Serial Number 8831778 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 24, 2015

Serial Number 8831778 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 18, 2014

Serial Number 8832051 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 20, 2014

Serial Number 8831344 was reported as accurate.

Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 307 · May 29, 2014

Serial Number 8833289 was reported as accurate.

Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 307 · May 29, 2014

Serial Number 8833289 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 14, 2014

Serial Number 8833543 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 15, 2013

Serial Number 8832040 was reported as accurate.

Dch525 25 · June 21, 2013

Serial Number 8831187 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 10, 2013

Serial Number 8831187 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 20, 2012

Serial Number 8832456 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 3, 2012

Serial Number 8833135 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 11, 2012

Serial Number 8833572 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 9, 2012

Serial Number 8833303 was reported as accurate.

Elgin Grade 252 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 252 Pocket Watch