Pocket Watch Database
https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/elgin/8831586
Access Date: November 28, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 252
Father Time
Manufacturer: | Elgin | |
Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
Movement Serial Number: | 8831586 | |
Grade: | 252 | |
Variation: | Father Time | |
Model: | 7 | |
Class: | 65 | |
Estimated Production Year: | 1900 | |
Run Quantity: | 3,000 | |
Grade/Model Run: | 4 of 16 | |
Grade/Model Total Production: | 19,000 | |
Size: | 18s | |
Jewels: | 21j | |
Jewel Material: | Ruby | |
Jewel Setting: | Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
Movement Signing Style: | Mixed | |
Movement Inlay Color: | Black | |
Movement Setting: | Lever | |
Plate: | Full Plate | |
Barrel: | Going | |
Train: | Quick | |
Regulator: | Moseley | |
Hairspring: | Breguet | |
Escapement Type: | Straight-line | |
Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
Adjusted: | Yes | |
Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | |
U.S. Patents: | 596407, 77078, 347272 | |
Movement Markings: | Father Time 21 Jewels Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. Adjusted. Safety Pinion. |
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Case: | Various | |
Run ID: | 3584.252G4.18S1892.187M72.O958.L1386.21J79 | |
Data Research: |
1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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Database Version: | v52.467 | |
Advanced Metrics | ||
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 57.20 | |
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 22.05 | |
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.038% | |
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 56 (1.87%) | |
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | -2.81% Analyzing 164 Sales |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 252
Target Profile: 18S-M7-21J-ONL-APTI-FATHER TIME
Elgin Grade 252 (All Variations): 19,000 ETP |
18S: 19,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 252 |
18S-M7: 19,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 252, Model 7 |
18S-M7-21J: 19,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 252, Model 7, 21 Jewels |
18S-M7-21J-ONL: 19,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 252, Model 7, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
18S-M7-21J-ONL-APTI: 19,000 100.00% |
18S-M7-21J-ONL-APTI-FATHER TIME: 19,000 100.00% |
Population Registry for This Run
Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 56 watches in the population registry for this run with 11 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
cjbrem Supporter 923 · December 4, 2023
Serial Number 8832567 was reported as accurate.
TerryfromCanada Supporter 486 · September 17, 2023
Serial Number 8831341 was reported as accurate.
cmdraven 4083 · March 29, 2022
Serial Number 8833051 was reported as accurate.
brianwatches 53 · March 15, 2022
Serial Number 8832388 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 23, 2021
Serial Number 8833155 was reported as inaccurate.
“Movement Signing Style” from mixed to what I
believe is “Old English”. It’s the same
style on the example shown above. Thank you for
your hard work!
wmike565 Supporter 115 · January 28, 2021
Serial Number 8831383 was reported as accurate.
Owassa3 1 · March 20, 2019
Serial Number 8833304 was reported as accurate.
oilseed Supporter 471 · March 11, 2018
Serial Number 8831151 was reported as accurate.
jacobwalls07 143 · January 21, 2018
Serial Number 8833916 was reported as accurate.
Gimparoo Supporter 703 · January 20, 2018
Serial Number 8832982 was reported as accurate.
Gimparoo Supporter 703 · October 25, 2017
Serial Number 8832766 was reported as accurate.
PADINTEXAS 8 · August 4, 2017
Serial Number 8832367 was reported as accurate.
jrmartin1964 2 · July 2, 2017
Serial Number 8831262 was reported as accurate.
WilliamGene 69 · June 28, 2016
Serial Number 8833686 was reported as accurate.
Cryptid 1 · October 13, 2015
Serial Number 8832494 was reported as accurate.
Cryptid 1 · October 9, 2015
Serial Number 8832494 was reported as accurate.
Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 307 · May 29, 2014
Serial Number 8833289 was reported as accurate.
Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 307 · May 29, 2014
Serial Number 8833289 was reported as accurate.
Dch525 25 · June 21, 2013
Serial Number 8831187 was reported as accurate.
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