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Access Date: December 24, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 616 Pocket Watch
Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 616

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: N845170 Question Mark
Grade: 616 Question Mark
Model: 20 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1951 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 4,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 5 of 9 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 60,000 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 46,000 (16S-M20-17J-ONP-A3PTI) Question Mark
Size: 16s Question Mark
Jewels: 17j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Pendant Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Plain Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 3 Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 15477.616G5.16S3933.1620M40.O6990.P12275.17J2624 Question Mark
Data Research: 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
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Database Version: v52.518 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 180.64 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 69.75 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 0.119% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only		9 (0.23%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 4.71% Analyzing 109 Sales Question Mark
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 616

Target Profile: 16S-M20-17J-ONP-A3PTI

Elgin Grade 616 (All Variations): 60,000 ETP
16S: 60,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 616
16S-M20: 60,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 616, Model 20
16S-M20-17J: 60,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 616, Model 20, 17 Jewels
16S-M20-17J-ONP: 60,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 616, Model 20, 17 Jewels, Openface/Pendant/Nickel
16S-M20-17J-ONP-A3PTI: 46,000 76.67% Other: 14,000
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Population Registry for This Run

Image Serial Number Run Position Primary Identification Method Discovery Date
There are 9 watches in the population registry for this run with 2 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Anonymous · August 12, 2021

Serial Number N846051 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 21, 2021

Serial Number N846465 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 17, 2019

Serial Number N844269 was reported as accurate.

GaryFields 3 · October 10, 2018

Serial Number N844845 was reported as accurate.

daddo46 992 · December 18, 2017

Serial Number N843585 was reported as accurate.

justin827 1 · November 13, 2015

Serial Number N845875 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Setting changed from Lever to Pendant
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Adjusted # Positions changed from 2 to 3

Anonymous · September 17, 2015

Serial Number N844587 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Setting changed from Lever to Pendant
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Adjusted # Positions changed from 2 to 3

joejohn 1 · October 7, 2013

Serial Number N846660 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Setting changed from Lever to Pendant
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Adjusted # Positions changed from 2 to 3

Anonymous · October 7, 2013

Serial Number N846660 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 5 adjustment, 10k rolled gold
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Setting changed from Lever to Pendant
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Adjusted # Positions changed from 2 to 3
Elgin Grade 616 Pocket Watch