Elgin Pocket Watch: Serial Number S510164 (Grade 616)

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Access Date: January 10, 2025

From the American Horology Archive:

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 616

Manufacturer:	Elgin
Manufacturer Location:	Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number:	S510164
Grade:	616
Model:	20
Estimated Production Year:	1952
Run Quantity:	10,000
Grade/Model Run:	9 of 9
Grade/Model Total Production:	60,000
Variant Est. Production:	10,000 (16S-M20-17J-ONP-A2PTI)
Size:	16s
Jewels:	17j
Jewel Setting:	Friction
Movement Configuration:	Openface
Movement Finish:	Nickel
Movement Setting:	Pendant
Plate:	3/4 Plate
Barrel:	Going
Train:	Quick
Regulator:	Plain
Adjusted:	Yes
Adjusted to Position:	Yes
Adjusted # of Positions:	2
Adjusted to Temperature:	Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism:	Yes
Total Adjustments:	5
Railroad Grade:	No
U.S. Patents:	77078
Case:	Various
Run ID:	15510.616G9.16S3947.1620M54.O7006.P12300.17J2638
Database Version:	v52.547
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	180.73
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	69.75
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	0.119%
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only	13 (0.13%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change):	4.71% Analyzing 109 Sales

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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 616

Target Profile: 16S-M20-17J-ONP-A2PTI

Elgin Grade 616 (All Variations): 60,000 ETP
16S: 60,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 616
16S-M20: 60,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 616, Model 20
16S-M20-17J: 60,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 616, Model 20, 17 Jewels
16S-M20-17J-ONP: 60,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 616, Model 20, 17 Jewels, Openface/Pendant/Nickel
16S-M20-17J-ONP-A2PTI: 10,000 16.67%	Other: 50,000 Other Adjustments or Unclassified

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Anonymous · January 8, 2022

Serial Number S509351 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Incorrect grade identification. My watch is grade
616, but it shows 575 on the serial number search.

Serial # S509351
Manufacturer Elgin
Grade 616
Size 16s
Model 20
Jewels 17
Setting Pendant Wind, Lever Set
Finish Gold Filled

Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.

Changes since this report was submitted:

Grade changed from 575 to 616

Jewels changed from 15j to 17j

Movement Finish changed from Flat to Nickel

Anonymous · September 9, 2021

Serial Number S507392 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: It has 17 jewels the elgin#651

Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.

Changes since this report was submitted:

Grade changed from 575 to 616

Jewels changed from 15j to 17j

Movement Finish changed from Flat to Nickel