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Access Date: April 29, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Seth Thomas Watch Co.
Grade: 180
Manufacturer: | Seth Thomas | |
Manufacturer Location: | Thomaston, Connecticut | |
Movement Serial Number: | 65212 | |
Grade: | 180 | |
Model: | 2 | |
Estimated Production Year: | 1895 | |
Run Quantity: | 100 | |
Grade/Model Run: | 1 of 6 | |
Grade/Model Total Production: | 990 | |
Size: | 18s | |
Jewels: | 17j | |
Jewel Setting: | Screw-Set | |
Movement Configuration: | Hunting | |
Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
Movement Setting: | Lever | |
Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
Balance Type: | Expansion | |
Regulator: | Reed | |
Hairspring: | Flat | |
Adjusted: | Yes | |
U.S. Patents: | 374359 | |
Movement Markings: | Seth Thomas Thomaston, Conn. Safety Pinion Pat'd Dec.6.'87. Adjusted |
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Case: | Various | |
Run ID: | 118.180G1.18S118.182M56.H56.L109.17J6 | |
Database Version: | v52.246 | |
Advanced Metrics | ||
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 2.98 | |
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 8.36 | |
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.070% | |
Registry Population: | 1 (1.00%) | |
Research Note: #65212: Verified with upper center wheel jeweled, Marked "Adjusted." These movements were likely upgraded from 15-Jewel Grade 197 to 16 or 17 Jewels. The Model 2, 17 Jewel, Nickel, Adjusted grade correlates to the Grade 180 classification. However, based on known grade lists, the Grade 180 was not introduced until around 1895, approximately two years after the original estimated production of this run. So, this run is either a 17-Jewel varaition of the Grade 197 (prior to the introduction of the Grade 180), or it was existing inventory upgraded to 17 jewels after the Grade 180 was introduced. Interestingly, the Grade 197 was discontinued as the Grade 180 was being introduced. Similar production occured with the Grade 97/80 (Gilt versions of the 197/180).
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 180
Target Profile: 18S-M2-17J-HNL-A
Seth Thomas Grade 180 (All Variations): 990 ETP |
18S: 990 100.00% 18s, Grade 180 |
18S-M2: 990 100.00% 18s, Grade 180, Model 2 |
18S-M2-17J: 990 100.00% 18s, Grade 180, Model 2, 17 Jewels |
18S-M2-17J-HNL: 990 100.00% 18s, Grade 180, Model 2, 17 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Nickel |
18S-M2-17J-HNL-A: 990 100.00% |
Population Registry for This Run
Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There is 1 watch in the population registry for this run with 1 image.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Snapper Supporter 130 · August 31, 2021
Serial Number 65202 was reported as accurate.
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