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From the American Horology Archive:
Waltham Grade No. 1617 Pocket Watch

American Waltham Watch Co.

Grade: No. 1617

Mixed Run: Various Jewel Counts and Adjustments Reported

Manufacturer: Waltham
Manufacturer Location: Waltham, Massachusetts
Movement Serial Number: 30815124
Grade: No. 1617
Model: 1908
Estimated Production Date: October 1941 - December 1941
Run Quantity: 10,000
Grade/Model Run: 4 of 11
Grade/Model Total Production: 82,000
Size: 16s
Jewels: 9j    Mixed Run
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Setting: Pendant
Plate: Bridge Plate
Hairspring: Breguet
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Position: Yes
Adjusted # of Positions: 3
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Railroad Grade: No
Data Research: 1954 Waltham "Gray Book" List
NAWCC Waltham Serial Digest
Case: Various
Run ID: 25786.G4.16S3910.161908M1448.O16037.P10602.9J138
Database Version: v52.219
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
245.51
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
224.66
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.245%
Registry Population: 30 (0.30%)
Research Note: Mixed Run: Various jewel counts and levels of adjustment.

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · June 22, 2023

Serial Number 30814407 was reported as accurate.

PHIL1199 Supporter 940 · February 22, 2023

Serial Number 30816626 was reported as accurate.

PHIL1199 Supporter 940 · February 11, 2023

Serial Number 30810452 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 18, 2022

Serial Number 30817110 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 24, 2021

Serial Number 30815954 was reported as accurate.

frankrus Supporter 34 · December 20, 2021

Serial Number 30816219 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 3, 2021

Serial Number 30812621 was reported as accurate.

TexMachina Supporter 3 · October 22, 2021

Serial Number 30815958 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 17j
Curator Response: Thanks for the confirmation!

taborclock Supporter 146 · October 2, 2021

Serial Number 30818976 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 9 Jewels, but adjusted for temp and 3 positions,
Black enamel dial.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · November 28, 2020

Serial Number 30811586 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · November 24, 2020

Serial Number 30811586 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

TerryfromCanada Supporter 477 · November 18, 2020

Serial Number 30818382 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · September 7, 2020

Serial Number 30816631 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Premier 17j, adj Temp & 3 Pos
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 291 · May 10, 2020

Serial Number 30816650 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: In addition to having a varying number of jewels
some were also adjusted to and 3 positions as on
30816650.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. This information has been noted in the research notes for this run.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · November 26, 2019

Serial Number 30814807 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · July 12, 2019

Serial Number 30814160 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · September 15, 2018

Serial Number 30810522 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · April 17, 2018

Serial Number 30817036 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · March 21, 2018

Serial Number 30810812 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · January 24, 2018

Serial Number 30813366 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · November 26, 2017

Serial Number 30812183 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 17 jewel
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · October 31, 2017

Serial Number 30816010 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · October 24, 2017

Serial Number 30813467 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Marks on movement = 30813467 Waltham Premier
16s, U.S.A, 17 Jewels, adjusted temp, 3
positions, screw on back cover, screw on bezel.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · June 28, 2017

Serial Number 30816886 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 9 jewel made for British military.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 17j to 9J
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · June 28, 2017

Serial Number 30816886 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 17j to 9J
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · June 9, 2017

Serial Number 30816271 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 17 jewels
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · January 18, 2017

Serial Number 30815860 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · December 12, 2016

Serial Number 30812375 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: The information appears to be completely wrong,
serial number on movement is definately
#30812375. Movement is marked 23 j Vanguard
waltham USA. year of model appears to be1908.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · September 3, 2016

Serial Number 30815239 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 17 j not 9
Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · March 13, 2016

Serial Number 30817561 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: I think this is an X military pocket watch marked
as nine jewels, premier 16 s, similar layout to
the 1899 traveler but in stainless steel
. also has ADJ.TEMP. and 3 pos. marked on it.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 17j to 9J
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · August 3, 2015

Serial Number 30810124 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Grade: No. 1609
Jewels: 9j
Adjusted: 3positions
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 17j to 9J
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · May 10, 2015

Serial Number 30814438 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: MOVEMENT FINISH: PLAIN NICKEL; ADJUSTED 3
POSITIONS
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 17j to 9J
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

goodtime 1 · October 18, 2014

Serial Number 30811761 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: The watch I'm working on is adjusted. It is in a
nickel silver case with "R C A F Ser 400" stamped
on the back. I'm assuming this is Royal Canadian
Air Force, and circa WW II. A terrific data base
here. Thank you.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 17j to 9J
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · October 18, 2014

Serial Number 30811761 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 17j to 9J
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · July 25, 2014

Serial Number 30810116 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 17j to 9J
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · January 24, 2014

Serial Number 30815435 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 17j to 9J
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · March 16, 2013

Serial Number 30815146 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 17j to 9J
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · January 27, 2013

Serial Number 30818539 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 17j to 9J
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge
Waltham Grade No. 1617 Pocket Watch