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Access Date: November 06, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 367
Manufacturer: | Elgin | |
Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
Movement Serial Number: | 14813927 | |
Grade: | 367 | |
Variation: | Father Time | |
Model: | 8 | |
Generation: | Second | |
Class: | 90 | |
Estimated Production Year: | 1910 | |
Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
Grade/Model Run: | 5 of 13 | |
Grade/Model Total Production: | 10,300 | |
Variant Est. Production: | 8,000 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME) | |
Grade/Model Unrealized Production: | 2,700 | |
Size: | 18s | |
Jewels: | 21j | |
Jewel Material: | Ruby, Sapphire & Diamond | |
Jewel Setting: | Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
Movement Signing Style: | Old English | |
Movement Inlay Color: | Gilt | |
Movement Setting: | Lever | |
Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
Double Roller: | Yes | |
Barrel: | Safety | |
Balance Jewel Material: | Diamond | |
Train: | Quick | |
Regulator: | Traveling Nut (spring) | |
Hairspring: | Breguet | |
Pallet Jewel Material: | Sapphire | |
Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
Adjusted: | Yes | |
Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
Adjustment Tolerance: | [10] 5P +/- 10 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 3 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 0-2 s/24hrs. | |
Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | |
Wind Indicator Available: | Yes | |
Wind Indicator Present: | Mixed | |
U.S. Patents: | 77078, 596407, 596408 | |
Movement Markings: | Father Time Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. 21 Jewels Adjusted 5 Positions Safety Barrel |
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Case: | Various | |
Run ID: | 6845.367G5.18S2917.188M96.O2361.L1944.21J176 | |
Data Research: |
1909 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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Database Version: | v52.428 | |
Advanced Metrics | ||
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 31.01 | |
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 11.93 | |
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.020% | |
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 12 (1.20%) | |
Research Note: #14813622 Verified as Free-sprung with a Wind Indicator
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 367
Target Profile: 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME
Elgin Grade 367 (All Variations): 10,300 ETP | |
18S: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367 |
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18S-M8: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8 |
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18S-M8-21J: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8, 21 Jewels |
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18S-M8-21J-ONL: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 10,300 100.00% | |
18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME: 8,000 77.67% | Other: 2,300
Other Variants or Unclassified |
NOTE: 13,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 2,700 Never Manufactured |
Population Registry for This Run
Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 12 watches in the population registry for this run with 2 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
JointVenture Supporter 128 · July 29, 2023
Serial Number 14813646 was reported as accurate.
JointVenture Supporter 128 · July 24, 2023
Serial Number 14813646 was reported as accurate.
waltham1833 71 · August 21, 2020
Serial Number 14813517 was reported as accurate.
waltham1833 71 · March 24, 2020
Serial Number 14813206 was reported as accurate.
wesley4444 2 · July 22, 2019
Serial Number 14813414 was reported as accurate.
rjbeck 150 · April 13, 2018
Serial Number 14813622 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 26, 2015
Serial Number 14813949 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 2, 2014
Serial Number 14813039 was reported as accurate.
LeroyC 392 · September 9, 2013
Serial Number 14813910 was reported as inaccurate.
gimballed box and does not have a wind indicator
(mounted in a standard openface case).
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