Pocket Watch Database


From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 367 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 367

Father Time

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 15154503 Question Mark
Grade: 367 Question Mark
Variation: Father Time Question Mark
Model: 8 Question Mark
Generation: Second Question Mark
Class: 90 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1911 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 1,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 6 of 13 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 10,300 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 8,000 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME) Question Mark
Grade/Model Unrealized Production: 2,700 Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 21j Question Mark
Jewel Material: Ruby, Sapphire & Diamond Question Mark
Jewel Setting: Gold Settings (Screw-Set) Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Signing Style: Old English Question Mark
Movement Inlay Color: Gilt Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Double Roller: Yes Question Mark
Barrel: Safety Question Mark
Balance Jewel Material: Diamond Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Traveling Nut (spring) Question Mark
Hairspring: Breguet Question Mark
Pallet Jewel Material: Sapphire Question Mark
Standard Dial Type: Double-Sunk Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 5 Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes Question Mark
Adjustment Tolerance: [10] 5P +/- 10 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 3 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 0-2 s/24hrs. Question Mark
Railroad Grade: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade Classification: Class A Question Mark
Wind Indicator Available: Yes Question Mark
Wind Indicator Present: Mixed Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078, 596407, 596408 Question Mark
Movement Markings: Father Time
Elgin, Ill.
U.S.A.
21 Jewels
Adjusted 5 Positions
Safety Barrel
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 7016.367G6.18S2973.188M103.O2450.L1971.21J179 Question Mark
Data Research: 1909 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.459 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
31.01 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
11.93 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.020% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
14 (1.40%) Question Mark
Research Note: #15154831 Verified as Free-Sprung with Wind Indicator, #15154499 and #15154117 Reported but Not Personally Verified. #15154503: Verified with No Wind Indicator.

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · January 27, 2024

Serial Number 15154707 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 22, 2023

Serial Number 15154350 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 11, 2023

Serial Number 15154829 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 28, 2022

Serial Number 15154350 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 7, 2022

Serial Number 15154494 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 21, 2021

Serial Number 15154391 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Wind indicator is present, also inside a military
deck box although the movement number and deck box
numbers don’t match.
Curator Response: Thanks for the confirmation!

CJEmpire3 113 · June 26, 2021

Serial Number 15154478 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 2, 2021

Serial Number 15154327 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 21, 2020

Serial Number 15154053 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 25, 2019

Serial Number 15154802 was reported as accurate.

dfchong 837 · September 23, 2019

Serial Number 15154126 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 18, 2019

Serial Number 15154554 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 10, 2019

Serial Number 15154922 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 21, 2019

Serial Number 15154766 was reported as accurate.

cloudjcc363 13 · February 18, 2019

Serial Number 15154392 was reported as accurate.

cloudjcc363 13 · February 1, 2019

Serial Number 15154392 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 21, 2019

Serial Number 15154707 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 31, 2018

Serial Number 15154922 was reported as accurate.

Sjefendan 13 · April 30, 2018

Serial Number 15154868 was reported as accurate.

sbmdbm 29 · June 2, 2017

Serial Number 15154117 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 22, 2017

Serial Number 15154256 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · May 22, 2017

Serial Number 15154253 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 21, 2017

Serial Number 15154253 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · May 21, 2017

Serial Number 15154253 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 21, 2017

Serial Number 15154253 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 18, 2017

Serial Number 15154499 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 15154499
21 j 18 size free sprung
wind indicator 40 hour
grade 367
gold wheels 6 oz sterling duber case motor
barrel

mrzumbo 2 · July 17, 2016

Serial Number 15154436 was reported as accurate.

mrzumbo 2 · July 9, 2016

Serial Number 15154436 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 13, 2016

Serial Number 15154300 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 17, 2016

Serial Number 15154503 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 12, 2015

Serial Number 15154512 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 20, 2014

Serial Number 15154117 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Ashland has this # on ebay as a deck watch w/wind
indicator and free sprung balance. Does not show
movement so can not verify serial #.

Anonymous · November 5, 2013

Serial Number 15154205 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 15, 2013

Serial Number 15154205 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: No wind indicator
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · September 23, 2012

Serial Number 15154647 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: No winding indicator on my watch.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes
Double Roller changed from Unknown to Yes

Anonymous · June 20, 2012

Serial Number 15154512 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: The were railroad grade.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes
Double Roller changed from Unknown to Yes

Anonymous · May 23, 2012

Serial Number 15154424 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: this serial number is for the pocket watch model
with fine regulator… not in marine chronometer
configuration.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes
Elgin Grade 367 Pocket Watch