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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 367 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 367

Father Time

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 14409999
Grade: 367
Variation: Father Time
Model: 8
Generation: Second
Class: 90
Estimated Production Year: 1910
Run Quantity: 1,000
Grade/Model Run: 3 of 13
Grade/Model Total Production: 10,300
Variant Est. Production: 9,600 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME)
Grade/Model Unrealized Production: 2,700
Size: 18s
Jewels: 21j
Jewel Material: Ruby, Sapphire & Diamond
Jewel Setting: Gold Settings (Screw-Set)
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Signing Style: Serif (Decorative)
Movement Inlay Color: Gilt
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Double Roller: Yes
Barrel: Safety
Balance Jewel Material: Diamond
Train: Quick
Regulator: Traveling Nut (spring)
Hairspring: Breguet
Pallet Jewel Material: Sapphire
Standard Dial Type: Double-Sunk
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Position: Yes
Adjusted # of Positions: 5
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes
Adjustment Tolerance: [10] 5P +/- 10 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 3 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 0-2 s/24hrs.
Railroad Grade: Yes
Railroad Grade Classification: Class A
Wind Indicator Available: Yes
Wind Indicator Present: Mixed
U.S. Patents: 77078, 596407, 596408
Movement Markings: Father Time
Elgin, Ill.
U.S.A.
21 Jewels
Adjusted
Adjusted 5 Positions
Safety Barrel
Data Research: 1909 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Run ID: 6593.367G3.18S2843.188M87.O2246.L1913.21J172
Database Version: v52.219
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
30.84
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
11.93
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.020%
Registry Population: 22 (2.20%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 9.85% Analyzing 61 Sales

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · May 31, 2023

Serial Number 14409181 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 11, 2022

Serial Number 14409666 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 30, 2021

Serial Number 14409283 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 3, 2021

Serial Number 14409070 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 7, 2021

Serial Number 14409625 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 18, 2020

Serial Number 14409700 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 2, 2020

Serial Number 14409330 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 17, 2020

Serial Number 14409332 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 10, 2019

Serial Number 14409070 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 10, 2019

Serial Number 14409070 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 8, 2019

Serial Number 14409332 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 20, 2019

Serial Number 14409609 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 24, 2018

Serial Number 14409999 was reported as accurate.

bwcrtime 188 · September 17, 2017

Serial Number 14409293 was reported as accurate.

Urbanops 51 · August 22, 2017

Serial Number 14409999 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 8, 2016

Serial Number 14409414 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: not a marine chronometer, standard 367
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes

marksmith 1 · March 5, 2016

Serial Number 14409217 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: no wind indicator
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes

alandye 52 · July 17, 2015

Serial Number 14409195 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · May 1, 2015

Serial Number 14409726 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · February 10, 2014

Serial Number 14409002 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes

jibberyerkibber 50 · October 30, 2013

Serial Number 14409434 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This particular watch DOES have a winding
indicator.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes

69abody 166 · October 25, 2013

Serial Number 14409434 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · February 2, 2013

Serial Number 14409931 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · January 5, 2013

Serial Number 14409303 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · November 7, 2012

Serial Number 14409931 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Not a winding indicator movement. Don't know
about being Free Sprung. Certainly not mounted in
a Gimbals Box. Open face pocket watch.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes
Double Roller changed from Unknown to Yes

Anonymous · August 6, 2012

Serial Number 14409652 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · July 12, 2012

Serial Number 14409576 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: not free sprung
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes
Elgin Grade 367 Pocket Watch