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Access Date: November 24, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 367
Father Time
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 14409999 | |
| Grade: | 367 | |
| Variation: | Father Time | |
| Model: | 8 | |
| Generation: | Second | |
| Class: | 90 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1910 | |
| Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 3 of 13 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 10,300 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 8,000 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME) | |
| Grade/Model Unrealized Production: | 2,700 | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 21j | |
| Jewel Material: | Ruby, Sapphire & Diamond | |
| Jewel Setting: | Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Signing Style: | Serif (Decorative) | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Gilt | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Double Roller: | Yes | |
| Barrel: | Safety | |
| Balance Jewel Material: | Diamond | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Traveling Nut (spring) | |
| Hairspring: | Breguet | |
| Pallet Jewel Material: | Sapphire | |
| Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Adjustment Tolerance: | [10] 5P +/- 10 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 3 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 0-2 s/24hrs. | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | |
| Wind Indicator Available: | Yes | |
| Wind Indicator Present: | Mixed | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078, 596407, 596408 | |
| Movement Markings: | Father Time Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. 21 Jewels Adjusted Adjusted 5 Positions Safety Barrel |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 6594.367G3.18S2844.188M87.O2246.L1914.21J173 | |
| Data Research: |
1909 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.457 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 31.01 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 11.93 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.020% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 22 (2.20%) | |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 367
Target Profile: 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME
| Elgin Grade 367 (All Variations): 10,300 ETP | |
| 18S: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367 |
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| 18S-M8: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8 |
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| 18S-M8-21J: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8, 21 Jewels |
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| 18S-M8-21J-ONL: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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| 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 10,300 100.00% | |
| 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME: 8,000 77.67% | Other: 2,300
Other Variants or Unclassified |
| NOTE: 13,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 2,700 Never Manufactured | |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 22 watches in the population registry for this run with 1 image.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · May 31, 2023
Serial Number 14409181 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 11, 2022
Serial Number 14409666 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 30, 2021
Serial Number 14409283 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 3, 2021
Serial Number 14409070 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 7, 2021
Serial Number 14409625 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 18, 2020
Serial Number 14409700 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 2, 2020
Serial Number 14409330 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 17, 2020
Serial Number 14409332 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 10, 2019
Serial Number 14409070 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 10, 2019
Serial Number 14409070 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 8, 2019
Serial Number 14409332 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 20, 2019
Serial Number 14409609 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 24, 2018
Serial Number 14409999 was reported as accurate.
bwcrtime 189 · September 17, 2017
Serial Number 14409293 was reported as accurate.
Urbanops 51 · August 22, 2017
Serial Number 14409999 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 8, 2016
Serial Number 14409414 was reported as inaccurate.
marksmith 1 · March 5, 2016
Serial Number 14409217 was reported as inaccurate.
alandye 52 · July 17, 2015
Serial Number 14409195 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 1, 2015
Serial Number 14409726 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 10, 2014
Serial Number 14409002 was reported as inaccurate.
jibberyerkibber 50 · October 30, 2013
Serial Number 14409434 was reported as inaccurate.
indicator.
69abody 166 · October 25, 2013
Serial Number 14409434 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 2, 2013
Serial Number 14409931 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 5, 2013
Serial Number 14409303 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 7, 2012
Serial Number 14409931 was reported as inaccurate.
about being Free Sprung. Certainly not mounted in
a Gimbals Box. Open face pocket watch.
Anonymous · August 6, 2012
Serial Number 14409652 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 12, 2012
Serial Number 14409576 was reported as inaccurate.
