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Access Date: December 14, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 375
Mixed Run: "Father Time" or "Veritas"
Manufacturer: | Elgin | |
Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
Movement Serial Number: | 16092128 | |
Grade: | 375 | |
Variation: | Mixed | |
Model: | 15 | |
Class: | 98 | |
Estimated Production Year: | 1912 | |
Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
Grade/Model Run: | 3 of 4 | |
Grade/Model Total Production: | 3,050 | |
Variant Est. Production: | 2,000 (16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED) | |
Grade/Model Unrealized Production: | 950 | |
Size: | 16s | |
Jewels: | 21j | |
Jewel Material: | Ruby & Sapphire | |
Jewel Setting: | Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
Movement Inlay Color: | Gilt | |
Movement Setting: | Lever | |
Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
Double Roller: | Yes | |
Barrel: | Safety | |
Train: | Quick | |
Regulator: | Traveling Nut (spring) | |
Hairspring: | Breguet | |
Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
Adjusted: | Yes | |
Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | |
Wind Indicator: | No | |
U.S. Patents: | 77078, 596407, 596408 | |
Movement Markings: | Veritas Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. 21 Jewels Safety Barrel Adjusted 5 Positions |
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Case: | Various | |
Run ID: | 7638.375G4.16S1799.1615M37.O2771.L2068.21J203 | |
Data Research: |
1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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Database Version: | v52.508 | |
Advanced Metrics | ||
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 9.18 | |
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 3.49 | |
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.006% | |
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 14 (1.40%) | |
Research Note: Father Time and Veritas movements have been verified in this mixed run. Some "Veritas" movements are fitted with a gilt hairspring. It is estimated that approximately 200 movements from this run were marked "Father Time" with the remaining marked "Veritas."
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 375
Target Profile: 16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED
Elgin Grade 375 (All Variations): 3,050 ETP | |
16S: 3,050 100.00% 16s, Grade 375 |
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16S-M15: 3,050 100.00% 16s, Grade 375, Model 15 |
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16S-M15-21J: 3,050 100.00% 16s, Grade 375, Model 15, 21 Jewels |
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16S-M15-21J-ONL: 3,050 100.00% 16s, Grade 375, Model 15, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 3,050 100.00% | |
16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED: 2,000 65.57% | Other: 1,050
Other Variants or Unclassified |
NOTE: 4,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 950 Never Manufactured |
Population Registry for This Run
Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 14 watches in the population registry for this run with 2 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
jeromeschley 60 · March 13, 2021
Serial Number 16092097 was reported as accurate.
2mnyboxers Supporter 408 · February 20, 2019
Serial Number 16092894 was reported as accurate.
dfchong 837 · October 12, 2017
Serial Number 16092817 was reported as accurate.
dfchong 837 · February 24, 2017
Serial Number 16092947 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 21, 2017
Serial Number 16092461 was reported as inaccurate.
Veritas!
(21j, adjusted 5 positions)
dfchong 837 · February 14, 2017
Serial Number 16092346 was reported as accurate.
dfchong 837 · January 21, 2017
Serial Number 16092947 was reported as accurate.
KeithH 25 · December 24, 2013
Serial Number 16092666 was reported as accurate.
LeroyC 392 · October 2, 2013
Serial Number 16092124 was reported as accurate.
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