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Access Date: November 19, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 391
"Father Time" or "B.W. Raymond"
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 17269683 | |
| Grade: | 391 | |
| Variation: | Mixed | |
| Model: | 15 | |
| Class: | 98 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1913 | |
| Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 9 of 9 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 9,000 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 4,000 (16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED) | |
| Size: | 16s | |
| Jewels: | 21j | |
| Jewel Material: | Ruby & Sapphire | |
| Jewel Setting: | Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Double Roller: | Yes | |
| Barrel: | Safety | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Traveling Nut (spring) | |
| Hairspring: | Breguet | |
| Pallet Jewel Material: | Sapphire | |
| Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | |
| Wind Indicator Available: | Yes | |
| Wind Indicator Present: | Mixed | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078, 596407, 596408 | |
| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 8453.391G9.16S2000.1615M59.O3170.L2119.21J225 | |
| Data Research: |
1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.445 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 27.09 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 10.41 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.018% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 11 (1.10%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | 0.74% Analyzing 80 Sales | |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 391
Target Profile: 16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED
| Elgin Grade 391 (All Variations): 9,000 ETP | |
| 16S: 9,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 391 |
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| 16S-M15: 9,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 391, Model 15 |
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| 16S-M15-21J: 9,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 391, Model 15, 21 Jewels |
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| 16S-M15-21J-ONL: 9,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 391, Model 15, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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| 16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 9,000 100.00% | |
| 16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED: 4,000 44.44% | Other: 5,000
Other Variants or Unclassified |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 11 watches in the population registry for this run with 1 image.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · February 14, 2022
Serial Number 17269938 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 14, 2020
Serial Number 17269009 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 30, 2019
Serial Number 17269181 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 25, 2019
Serial Number 17269980 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 6, 2019
Serial Number 17269664 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 15, 2019
Serial Number 17269283 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 18, 2018
Serial Number 17269037 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 17, 2018
Serial Number 17269037 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 16, 2017
Serial Number 17269856 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 16, 2017
Serial Number 17269624 was reported as inaccurate.
a wind indicator.
Anonymous · July 13, 2016
Serial Number 17269138 was reported as inaccurate.
indicator
Anonymous · April 3, 2013
Serial Number 17269409 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 21, 2012
Serial Number 17269900 was reported as accurate.
