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Access Date: February 16, 2025
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 367
Father Time, Freesprung
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 21825148 | |
| Grade: | 367 | |
| Variation: | Father Time - Free Sprung | |
| Model: | 8 | |
| Generation: | Second | |
| Class: | 90 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1919 | |
| Run Quantity: | 500 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 11 of 13 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 10,300 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 2,300 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME ) | |
| Grade/Model Unrealized Production: | 2,700 | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 21j | |
| Jewel Material: | Ruby, Sapphire & Diamond | |
| Jewel Setting: | Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Signing Style: | Old English | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Gilt | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Double Roller: | Yes | |
| Barrel: | Safety | |
| Balance Jewel Material: | Diamond | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Freesprung | |
| Hairspring: | Breguet | |
| Pallet Jewel Material: | Sapphire | |
| Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Adjustment Tolerance: | [10] 5P +/- 10 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 3 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 0-2 s/24hrs. | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | |
| Wind Indicator Available: | Yes | |
| Wind Indicator Present: | Yes | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078, 596407, 596408 | |
| Movement Markings: | Father Time Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. Elgin Nat'l. Watch Co. U.S.A. 21 Jewels Adjusted 5 Positions |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 10845.367G13.18S3495.188M143.O4536.L2218.21J273 | |
| Data Research: |
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.608 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 31.01 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 11.93 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.020% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 6 (1.20%) | |
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Research Note: Data analysis indicates this run was terminated prior to full production at the factory and has been adjusted accordingly for the database. Please refer to factory serial lists for information regarding the original run.
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 367
Target Profile: 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME - FREE SPRUNG
| Elgin Grade 367 (All Variations): 10,300 ETP | |
| 18S: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367 |
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| 18S-M8: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8 |
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| 18S-M8-21J: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8, 21 Jewels |
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| 18S-M8-21J-ONL: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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| 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 10,300 100.00% | |
| 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME : 2,300 22.33% | Other: 8,000
Other Variants or Unclassified |
| NOTE: 13,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 2,700 Never Manufactured | |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 6 watches in the population registry for this run.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · August 3, 2019
Serial Number 21825457 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 16, 2016
Serial Number 21825490 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: father time 18 size is rr grade with 21 jewels and
this has up & down indactor
this has up & down indactor
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · October 7, 2015
Serial Number 21825237 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes
redsox1 74 · October 5, 2015
Serial Number 21825148 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Free Sprung, Winding indicator present. in Gimbled
Box
Box
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes
fordcasa Top Contributor Supporter 444 · October 23, 2014
Serial Number 21825350 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes
